• nomoredreaddit@lemmy.world
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    Apparently the TOS muskrat claimed were violated by Ukraine using starlink for ‘‘offensive’’ purposes, were really just TOS for the lower paid service level.

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    The president cut service though. Musk does what he is told with prez, his entire fortune is based on government contracts, he would never defy prez, he was clearly asked to take the blame for this, and OP here is misguided to repeat that lie without moderation.

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    I see billboards for Starlink Roam and the tagline is “Roam Anywhere” or something and I’m like “Except for Ukraine, apparently.”

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    Hope the EU can get their own network up fast, because Elon is Ukraine’s enemy, he will always cut off service when they need it most.

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      That extortion has an end date, hopefully 2030, when the EU’s Iris2 gets operational. Until then however Elon can play his nasty game, at least for the higher quality level of the service.

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    Starlink fastest growing revenue base is now governments vastly outpacing the growth of their consumer market. It is clear this is the real goal, to weaponize this technology.

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    Teslas in a few years:

    “We notice that you’re in an uncontrolled spin; uncontrolled spins violate Tesla’s terms and conditions; your airbags have been deactivated. Upgrade now to the super spender safety plan for a one off payment of $30k to unlock instant airbag activation”.

  • Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world
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    The guy that nazi saluted on live broadcast twice did this? Not shocked at all seeing the attrocities the nazis and communists did to the Ukrainian people.

    Either someone buy out Starlink, Space X, and Tesla or create a better company would be great in the current timeline.

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    The dispute isn’t that they’re not allowed to use Starlink for murder drones, it’s that the murder drone plan is more expensive.

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      SpaceX is not actually supposed to even have direct control over Starshield. It uses Starlink infrastructure, but is a military application that is supposed to be under the control of the federal government.

      SpaceX shouldn’t have the option to pitch different plans.

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      You do realize that reactive jet shahed interceptors are also using starlink and also hit the speed limit wall?

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        What? You think that statement was a negative towards Ukraine?

        Mocking the news outlets for making the cutoff seem like they were violating the TOS by using Starlink for drone strikes. But Musk just charges more for that, a lot more. Because you can charge a military almost anything for the same product.

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          You are simultaneously mocking the free press while also mocking the hardships of people in Ukraine.

          When the way you talk is identical to how tankies talk, people are going to call you a tankie.

        • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          You called them “murder drones”, like you disapproved of Ukraine using drone warfare in their fight to defend themselves. That’s tankie behavior.

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            I don’t understand your reaction, all the guy was saying was if Ukraine wants to stream Murder Drones, the hit Australian indie animated web series, then they need to pay Elon more for it. What’s so controversial about that?

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              You know what’s funny, that’s likely exactly why I plucked that phrase out of my head and now people who know nothing about me are losing their minds over it.

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          What? You think that statement was a negative towards Ukraine?

          We have eyes and the capability of reading. It very obviously was that.

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            When I first read the original comment again the thread was lovely empty and very new, I didn’t read it as a negative one, but rather as satire. (Obviously, I have no idea what the original author meant. But it looks like it was meant as satire.)

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            Disagree. Defensive or offensive, you’re still killing people. It’s war.

            It’s most likely a neutral statement.

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        You do understand that it makes Starlink very hard to differentiate from a military system. Starlink has stockholders and a board and Musk is still beholdant to them. What if Russia starts downing the satelites? What then?

        btw Starlink has an actual military side. It’s called a “starshield” that is the “murderdrone plan” while starlink is the civilian side with speed limits on recievers and all that. We can’t know what Ukraine really is using or was using and people are discussing that when people in Ukraine and Nato say starlink for Ukraine they mean starshield.

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          Yeah, stockholders that had no problems with Ukraine using it until turncoat Trump made a deal with Russia. Only then suddenly they have qualms.

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          If Starlink wasn’t run by a fascist supremacist corporate dickhead, they’d offer their plan for fucking free, to show their support towards Ukraine. That was the whole fucking point. This was going on right when the US and Europe were offering military and weapons aid.

          Instead, Elon Musk took one look at Rule of Acquisition #34 and ran with it. He used it as a PR stunt, and took it away to ask for more money.

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            If he was not a fascist, like fascist Trump he would be supporting our the fascists in OUR war against fascists Russia and fascist pootin.

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            inb4: “fucking tankie”

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            If Starlink wasn’t run by a fascist… they’d offer their plan for fucking free.

            This is capitalism, and SpaceX (aka Starlink) is a publicly traded corporation. It doesn’t matter who is in charge of SpaceX, the CEO will be required to operate in the best interests of the shareholders. Ukraine is not one of those shareholders. Therefore, per your own statement, the CEO of SpaceX will always be a fascist since they’ll prioritize profit over the Ukrainian people.

            This is kinda the point “The Tankies” are making.

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          You do know if any country attacks a satelite there will be a flock of countries going to war for a treaty violation? Civilian or not.

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            You mean west will write strongly worded protest and give more weapons to Ukraine? yeah.