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  • I want to add that the Iriquoian people are probably one of the best examples of all these things. They only have one surviving culture, the Haudenosaunee Nation, but when white people arrived in North America they were a significant cultural group in the areas settled by the early French and English colonists. When we arrived they had long been using a combination of farming, hunting, and managed gathering for sustainence, in a way that was compared to nobility. They had a complex society and political system which they frequently debated. Their political debates with Europeans heavily impacted modern European values, and their political system was extremely influential on the structure early American Republic.

    The book The Dawn of Everything goes more into this and other cultures and peoples often seen as primitive for their lithic tools and other traits we typically see as of an earlier stage of advancement.




  • Oh they were all sorts of things before white folks showed up, even more since. The Yupik still hunt and gather. The Aztec had major cities when the Spanish arrived, with Tenochtitlan having an estimated 200,000 people more than twice the estimates for Madrid at the time. Cahokia was an empire that farmed sunflowers and later maize in what’s now Illinois before being abandoned in the Eastern hemisphere’s middle ages. The people of the pacific northwest were mostly fishers because if you’ve got a fuckload of salmon it’s not a bad call. In what’s now Mexico you had a lot of sylviculture.

    Maize was domesticated from teosinte in mesoamerica. Beans, tomatoes, squash, and peppers were all grown by many cultures. The inca grew so many potatoes.

    Most people were doing a little bit of everything though. Or whatever made sense to them. Many wanted to hunt and gather and chose to not prioritize agriculture over the hunt.

    But also, hunter gatherers can do all these things. They can engage in complex politics, build great monuments, develop an interesting material culture, and plenty else. We have evidence of this in both hemispheres.