" By finding him guilty but not punishing him, he will be made to feel guilty and the chance of him reoffending will be prevented, without socially impairing the man "
So that judge is either a rapist or an idiot.
I would say he’s a rapist, yes. He clearly doesn’t consider rape to be a problem.
“I don’t want to impose a BLACK stain on this young man’s reputation…”
No, he’s low key racist, and in the Good Ol’ Boy club, and probably was bribed.
This article feels super rage bait-y to be honest. Like my first reaction at the title is of course, being like “thats fucked up” but as im reading it, it feels like this article was written in a manipulative way. There’s no sources at all, can’t find any using English google, decided to literally figure out how to search Dutch google in Dutch just to find something more reputable and there’s only this one site, which has 2 articles, the only 2 links in either is one article pointing to the other, and another link to what is clearly (from the add/article layout) a Belgium tabloid of some kind.
Like nothing about the people involved or the situation, but this website is some shit, and so is the other one covering this. They may be on the right side of this story but this website itself feels incredibly un-credible, and I wouldn’t think to assume Belgium has some sort of news media problem where like, the gossip tabloids are the last bastions fighting for bodily autonomy and consent, where it would make sense that there is no other source.
Thanks. That’s the kind of comments Reddit was great for a long time ago. Now it’s just immediate jump to outrage without anyone reading the article or doing any research when in doubt. And you even posted your conclusion. That’s just very very helpful
Thank you, this means a lot.
Except the comment is absolute horseshit. Vrt is the public broadcasting and news service and absolutely not a tabloid, furthermore this story is well documented and has been all over Belgian news for a week so it’s absolutely uncalled for to call the veracity of this story into question.
If you want a source, here is a direct link to the verdict: https://rechtbanken-tribunaux.be/sites/default/files/media/reatpi/leuven/files/correctioneel-vonnis-leuven-1-april-2025.pdf
Feel free to cross reference with the article and point out inaccuracies. As far as I can tell, the article is factual but perhaps a bit short on details and context. Nevertheless, this story has been covered extensively and much more in depth in Dutch on the same website. In fact, I retrieved the link to the verdict from an article on vrt.be.
bit short on details and context
That is the litteral definition of rage bait. Leaving out details and context to just tell people what they should feel. It doesen’t matter if it’s on a subject matter I would otherwise be in support of or not. It’s fucked up.
If you have a good point to make, you can make it proper. Doing it with rage bait is a fucked up way to profit from a tragedy while undermining real progress on solving the underlying problem by fucking with people’s trust. This is performative bullshit that grand standers do to make a buck off something, while causing more harm in the long term.
And I did read the PDF you linked after translating it, and that only verified how rage baity that article was written (at least their English version in the op link). Here it is in English for anyone else who wants to see: https://imgur.com/a/CeM1VDi
I also didn’t call the veracity of the fucking story into question. What the actual fuck is your problem? Do you need to lash out on people for not automatically knowing the same shit you know? I appreciate the fucking verdict link, which was what I was trying to find in the first place, but you didn’t need to be a dick about it.
I was annoyed because that article on it’s own basically says “take this as we tell it to you or go fuck yourself” with the way it’s presenting the info. It’s about fucking delivery. Thanks for bringing the shitty part of Reddit with you, I came here to avoid, by completely missing the point of what I was saying just to fabricate yourself a target to take your shitty day out on.
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Jesus quit straw-manning, I didn’t say Vrt was a tabloid, I said the only site they refrenced, and only in the dutch version of the artcile, was the tabloid, not Vrt.
vrt.be is a very reputable site and not a tabloid. It belongs to the Flemish public broadcasting service, and they mostly write articles in Dutch. They do have an English section as well, though obviously it’s not as thorough as their Dutch site. After all, we are a Dutch speaking region.
I can assure you that this case is very real, and has been all over the Belgian media the past week. Just google “verkrachter leuven”, and you’ll literally find hundreds of news articles about this case.
decided to literally figure out how to search Dutch google in Dutch just to find something more reputable
Looks like you didn’t do a very good job then.
I appreciate the info but it would be a lot easier for them to demonstrate their legitimacy by using reference links that point somewhere besides their own internal articles, as opposed to the burden being on me to familiarize myself with a language I don’t know and entire nations culture/media landscape on a dime, in order to do that job for them.
They could be less lazy if they are reputable.
Edit: PS the one site they linked to (on the dutch version of the article, not the English one) was the one I said was a tabloid. It very clearly is a tabloid and it basically has the exact same formatting and color scheme as The Sun.
you could use an editor, same here
Of course you, who looked into this, barely have any notice.
no sentence be passed as this would result in the accused having great difficulty in finding work in the medical profession.
I wonder why the medical profession doesn’t want rapists… 🤔
Oh, and he’s going to be an OB/GYN.
Just a coincidence, of course. Because he cares that much about women.
celebrate men’s right to inspect vaginas
Ok I can understand if he was caught with pot, drug paraphernalia, or drunk driving (without injuring someone).
But raping someone? Idc if you’re talented or have a bright future you should have it on your record or face a punishment like probation
There is going to be a new trial, everybody chill out.
fuck if i understand belgian law, but it seems appropriate to say what the fuck is this
I don’t think it matters where this happened. IMO, “what the fuck is this” is the appropriate reaction to giving no consequences for rape. This would also apply to a litany of other offenses, but in this case rape.
I also think rape is one of the worst things anyone could do to another, right up there with slavery, torture, and other, similar things. I would consider murder to be less offensive, since at least then the person doesn’t have to work through the trauma after. It’s a mercy. Still unacceptable in a civilized society, but anything you have to live the rest of your life dealing with, is worse IMO.
A fate worse than death. In this case, getting SA’d, and having your attacker convicted and let go because of bullshit like this. Idk about you all, but that would fuck me right up.
In Belgium a couple of years ago a brown student died during a hazing at a fraternity. Every one involved , all white and sons of doctors, lawyers and judges, basically came away scott free. They were all sentenced to community service and weren’t found guilty for criminal negligence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Sanda_Dia
Belgium has a elitism problem. Bet if this rapist was a brown medical student or a street sweeper or something he would’ve gotten jail time.
Well let’s Brock Allen Turner this motherfucker
What’s the guys name? You’re right that we need to treat him like that other rapist, Brock Allen Turner.
Are you guys talking about the rapist, Brock Allen Turner, or a different rapist named Brock Allen Turner?
There’s just the one Brock Allen Turner, rapist, of which I’m aware. This other guy, though, needs to be made as famous as Brock.
It was posted here by someone but it got removed. I guess we reddit now
Oh well, wonder where I can search to what a promising career looks like to a rapist
The man hasn’t been named by Belgian media. 😠
Internet detectives, hear my call! Find the name of this rapist so that we may plaster it everywhere like the rapist Brock Turner!
Just like Brock Turner, the rapist!
Oh Brock Allen Turner, the rapist who now goes by Allen Turner?
Yup, the rapey one
The man hasn’t been named by Belgian media.
Yes, because that’s illegal in Belgium, if not the EU.
The man has been suspended from his university though
Really? How do you know?
Because he can read news sources in Dutch?
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2025/04/01/student-geneeskunde-verkrachting-geen-straf/
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Thanks!
NAME AND FUCKING SHAME
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He looks like a rich spoiled fuckboy. I hope no hospital hires him
hey we love these, wait wut
look it’s inappropriate to the extreme to make fun of names, so fuck Dr. Ruben Van Stiphout and he sounds like a little shit
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Thank you, I’m not allowed yet to upload pictures
No. Keep that shit practice in the US.
Yalls have a guy convicted of rape facing zero consequences, and you think saying his name is a shit practice?
How about you actually read the article first?
Yes. There is a due process that needs to be observed, and exposing people just because you don’t agree with the ruling is exactly the argument fascists and dictators bring to push their agenda and discredit the court of law.
You might also look further into this specific case, the article is very one-sided and meant to create outrage.
- The alleged perpetrator tried to bring the woman home but her roommate didn’t open for over 30 min
- They’ve been making out in the bar and been observed holding hands and kissing by a cctv along the way
- Eventually they ended up in the guys house where they had sex, which she later said was nonconsensual, which is very much possible. However, witnesses say the guy was also drunk beyond being able to reasonably give consent.
- He was given a suspended 3 year sentence, not a free pass.
Point 2 sounds like you think kissing someone entitles you to rape them.
It doesn’t.
I never said nor I implied that. The point made during the trial was that the people were observed to be intimate and drunk, so whatever happened next was at least not premeditated.
at least not premeditated
Since when is premeditation a condition for a rape conviction?
so his roomie was Brock Turner
1 there is going to be a new trial bcs they appealed.
2 We have standards and keep away from mob justice, public shaming, the death penalty and indentured servitude slavery.
Your uncivilised, appauling country is no reference for civilised counties, on the contrary.We have standards and keep away from mob justice, public shaming, the death penalty and indentured servitude slavery.
Seriously, the US has a lot of our own shit to get together, but lets not throw too many stones over the moral superiority of european countries either. Especially right now, in the face of the growing influence of far-right parties across the, ahem, “civilized” world. The US is a whole omnibus of cautionary tales right now, it might be worth hearing one or two of them out instead of going directly to “unbelievable cliche”.
They were both drunk. She was more drunk.
Thanks for pointing this out.
He claims that he asked her several times if she consented and that he had been given the impression that she did.
Seems like it was more of an “unintentional rape”, like manslaughter is unintentional murder. Wrong: yes. Bad judgment: yes. Deliberate malice: maybe not.
yeah i fail to see how this is rape. i guess every drunken hookup we later regret is a rape
If your definition of every drunken hookup is, that they are unable to stand on their own…
So you like to fuck lifeless bodies? Fucking necrophile 🤢
They are cold, unless you are in time
She was unable to walk-drunk, he got her home.
This guy wants to be a gynaecologist for fucks sake.what does gynaecology have to do with this?
Really?
You don’t see a problem with this guy being alone in a room with a woman in a vulnerable position having her genitals touched?If there’s a problem with him being a doctor, he shouldn’t be a doctor. The idea that vaginas are somehow especially vulnerable is mysticism.
I don’t think you understand the problem here.
And when I say I don’t trust judges and that the justice system of most places is broken for giving a single person the final decision power, based on whatever they think is right, people say I’m trolling.
Judges pull decisions out of their ass to fulfill whatever interest they have. Or sometimes just because they are stupid.
Good judges are super rare.
Yeah in this case I think it’s more a case of “hey this guy looks kind of like my son”. In this case I think it led to a miscarriage of justice, but I think in other cases that kind of thinking could protect against excessively harsh punishments. In the end I think it comes down to inequality. Bigger inequality shrinks the pool of people judges can intuitively relate to, which in turn makes judgements more unequal.
And that is why DEI policies were first on the chopping block sadly.
Yeah, better let the internet mob, who barely takes time to read an understand a newspaper article, pass judgement.
That’s a judiciary system I’d want to live under.
I talk about the power being in the hand of a single person, and your first alternative is the internet?
You went from black to white and forgot all the colors in between
You’re absolutely right unfortunately. I had to witness myself. That day, I lost my believe in our justice system (that was in Germany).
Same here, judge didn’t know the law and denied my request, where another government body (that deals with that type of thing exclusively) already said I was right. Brazil
Obligatory reminder that Belgium has a unresolved problem with a pedophile ring raping and murdering children with impunity, enjoying protection and likely having direct involvement of the highest ranks of politics, police and judiciary.
I think you have enough pedos in your own country to worry about a thing from 30 years ago
k. what you yelling about then?
Not yelling, that’s he imagination in your weard head.
Jusqt saying a Germ definitely shouldn’t be obsessed with something totally unrelated to this case.
Especially knowing how horrible you all are.Deflection. Probably feels threatened by you mentioning it.
thereby, you’ve doomed us all, because you even thought of that
JFC, I was afraid this was in the US. I’m not pleased to realize there are other places just as fucked up. Though in the US the excuse for letting him off would have to be that he was rich, not brilliant.
Belgium, for those wondering.
In the US and a lot of other countries this wouldn’t even be considered rape. It’s good that it is here, but this case isn’t quite as easy as it seems on first glance.
I think the judge made the right call here. It was a drunk hook up where both people were drunk, but conscious. The girl was quite a bit more drunk to the point where she was ruled unable to consent in a legal senses despite the fact she did and several witnesses confirmed she did.
Again, still rape, which is sex without consent, but very far from the vicious predator most people are picturing right now.
Yes, she made contact with him, he called her GF’s who didn’t answer bcs it was late and finally went home with him.
Bcs she was too drunk it is considered rape.
This article is doesn’t accurately tell the events.
But I agree he wouldn’t be let off if he wasn’t a privileged student.
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