• Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
      9710·
      5 months ago

      Linux isn’t free because it uses your electricity

    • SchizoDenji@lemm.eeEnglish
      34·
      5 months ago

      Except you can simply debloat and disable everything with a single script. Linuxbros are the biggest misinformation spreaders around windows.

    • hddsx@lemmy.caEnglish
      345·
      5 months ago

      Linux has been having issues for a few years now. They’ve been going an obfuscation route with GNOME3 and systemd. Red hat basically decided to contractually kick people out for doing the traditional CentOS thing ever since they decided to change what the official CentOS does.

      The worst thing is, Debian also started using systemd.

      • the_doktor@lemmy.zipEnglish
        491·
        5 months ago

        systemd doesn’t obfuscate shit. It’s Free software and you know exactly what it’s doing. Stop spreading misinformation.

      • CutestFox@lemm.eeEnglish
        30·
        5 months ago

        No, systemd and GNOME are not part of mainline, and also GNOME and systemd arent obfuscated

        • hddsx@lemmy.caEnglish
          116·
          5 months ago

          While its possible to find or build a distro without systemd, most of the big names that you would introduce people to use it:

          Ubuntu, Debian, Red Hat, Fedora, OpenSUSE

          Hell, Arch uses it

          I do get your point about GNOME, and I don’t use a DE anymore so I might be outdated, but Gnome and KDE were the big two back when I used it.

          I say obfuscates because gnome configuration is now largely binary, whereas gnome2 used to be text files. The same goes for systemd- the logs are now binary files with journalctl instead of text files

          • the_doktor@lemmy.zipEnglish
            271·
            5 months ago

            Oh no, not binary files that are well-documented and you can know exactly what they’re doing!

            Also, the journalctl files are just text with useful markers embedded in them to be easier to filter and search. Run strings on the journal files and see they’re just text with metadata in them.

            • bobs_monkey@lemm.eeEnglish
              6·
              5 months ago

              You must compile every single software package from source, but only after you’ve examined every single line of the code yourself!

              1995 called, they said you’re doing it wrong, and RMS is going to be very mad at you.

              • psud@aussie.zoneEnglish
                2·
                5 months ago

                1995 calling would be telling you you need to roll your own kernel to be efficient on your 486

              • the_doktor@lemmy.zipEnglish
                12·
                5 months ago

                You… do realize that’s what Free software is about, right? Gnome, systemd, etc, ARE Free software. They’re created by tons of people and tons of other people look over the code so you don’t have to. The number of people who cannot understand this boggles my mind. Sure, errors and rare malicious things slip through, but not nearly at the rate of the average garbageware you run on other OSes.

                Stop spreading misinformation.

            • hddsx@lemmy.caEnglish
              3·
              5 months ago

              I didn’t know that the are text files with markers…

              If that’s true, I may hate it less. I’ll have to try that

          • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.deEnglish
            15·
            5 months ago

            I think you are either trolling or you fundamentally don’t understand, what you’re talking about.

            Nothing is obfuscated. You can download each and every code file, audit it, and build the binaries from exactly that code. You can even compare the binaries to the ones provided by major distros thanks to reproducible builds.

            Just because you don’t understand code, doesn’t mean it’s obfuscated. Following that logic, even a loaf of bread is “obfuscated” because you don’t understand sour dough.

            • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.orgEnglish
              23·
              5 months ago

              I’m not sure I totally agree with him, what I’m sure is that I don’t agree with you, because you clearly haven’t read his comment.

            • hddsx@lemmy.caEnglish
              24·
              5 months ago

              That’s not what I’m saying. Yes, it’s open source and you can build the binaries itself. I’m saying that the process is obfuscated or complicated because instead of text log files, you have to use journtalctl to view them.

              Then again, someone said it may be text files with markers so I have to look into that

              • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.deEnglish
                5·
                5 months ago

                Are you really sure, you’re using “obfuscation” right? Because that implies that someone intentionally makes something harder to read to hide something. That’s not the case here. Nothing is hidden, it’s all there, the formats are well defined and easy to read.

                • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.orgEnglish
                  23·
                  5 months ago

                  Nothing is hidden, it’s all there

                  Yeah, of course, it’s all there in binary. For programs of course that’s not a problem, but for data that you may need to look at any time, it is. It’s harder to interpret both for humans (significantly) and both for any program that want to make use of it (unless they use the specific library that came up with the format, and by that also pulling in all its libs transitively)

                  Binary data is not much less obfuscated than the system files of windows. It’s all there, you can read it

        • hddsx@lemmy.caEnglish
          19·
          5 months ago

          Yes, I am aware. But none of these distros are distros I would introduce to someone new to Linux.

          • Makussu@feddit.deEnglish
            231·
            5 months ago

            If any of the people you introduce to linux would care about systemd

            • bobs_monkey@lemm.eeEnglish
              41·
              5 months ago

              Or have any clue what systemd does out of the gate, especially on a more user-friendly distro having never used linux

              • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.orgEnglish
                31·
                5 months ago

                That’s a bad point. What that logic introducing someone to windows is not bad because they don’t know about it’s data mining components anyway.

                I’m not saying systemd does that. I’m saying that you basically said: “they wouldn’t know even if that was true, so it’s fine!”

                • bobs_monkey@lemm.eeEnglish
                  1·
                  5 months ago

                  Huh? All I was saying was that someone who’s brand new to Linux is going to be up to their eyeballs in their new system to barely comprehend the very concept of an init system, especially on the more polished, user friendly distro that do a good job of keeping those mechanisms under the hood.

  • matcha_addict@lemy.lolEnglish
    482·
    5 months ago

    Piracy is cool, but I prefer to use community-driven software rather than ones driven by corporate profits. I prefer a model where many can contribute to it, fork it, and for which making integrations is much easier thanks to its openness.

  • hddsx@lemmy.caEnglish
    20·
    5 months ago

    Not that I condone piracy, but I thought photoshop switched to a SaaS model from CS6 or so that made it unlikely to be pirated?

    • JackOverlord@beehaw.orgEnglish
      15·
      5 months ago

      It’s still possible and last time I used it, it was about as easy as can be.

      When I last did it, you just downloaded the regular program, installed it, then you ran a patcher and that was it. This was a couple years ago now, but Adobe already had their current business model.

      • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
        10·
        5 months ago

        Yup. The only real difference is the pricing model, the program is pretty much the same.

        I rememeber they tried offering online libraries of stuff for download to justify the subscription for some products.

      • jarfil@beehaw.orgEnglish
        2·
        5 months ago

        Last time SWIM used a patcher, it came with a malware dropper. Is that still how this “free” works?

    • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      5 months ago

      Would you describe it further? I don’t see how coming to a subscription-based model makes it not piracy. I feel like I miss something there.

      I died a little inside by remembering that I was there when their lifetime CS licenses were sold and that licensing servers went offline at least a dozen of years ago… On the other hand, it raises a question if breaking CS versions is a piracy if they are abandoned. There’s no way to use them even if you are a paid customer wanting to install it on your new PC.

      • hddsx@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        5 months ago

        Again, I don’t condone piracy.

        It used to be that you could install a legitimate Adobe and use then the only thing you would need is a key generator that would open the software. In essence, the entire software is located on your computer.

        I was under the possibly mistaken impression that they took away the ability to register offline, and put the license server online. In other words, you’d have to patch the code or fake the license server to do accomplish the method of years prior

    • HelixDab2@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      5 months ago

      It is, yes. They do a ton of really small updates all the fucking time now, sometimes breaking critical shit, sometimes fixing things. (I don’t remember which version it was that ended support for PANTONE; now you have to pay for a subscription to PANTONE also, and the plug-in is trash and buggy as hell.) Since it wants to be always connected to the internet now, it’s more of a pain in the ass to pirate, although it’s likely still possible.

      I have to use it for my job, so my company pays for it. But TBH, if you’re an industry professional, there’s really not any viable options on the market. Half the stuff clients send to me are in proprietary formats.

  • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.todayEnglish
    132·
    5 months ago

    Yarr, ye by digging yourself a Mass Grave if you be running them Next Gen programs of the P variety.

    Honestly, though, how long is that going to work for you? Windows 10 runs out of service like next year, sooner for most versions. It’s just not sustainable.

    • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      51·
      5 months ago

      I’m trying to figure out what to do with my lab workstation. If I want to mess with the settings of my Reolink cameras windows seems to be the only stable option sadly. I’ve tried their android software and it’s garbage. The web interface is very limited after enabling it in the settings via their software. Wine has not worked well for me. It’s an isolated lan so it’s not a huge deal but I really wish there was a Linux build. I love the hardware and don’t want to replace the physical cameras. Just so stupid they won’t support a Linux client.

      • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.todayEnglish
        5·
        5 months ago

        I feel that. I use an old Canon EOS model and the HDMI output isn’t clean so I was hyped when they released webcam software for windows…

        but they charge $5 a month to use it in anything other than 720p…

        Picking good devices to use is hard.

        • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          5 months ago

          I really appreciate your comment but yes, I use frigate on an HAOS system. It works incredible and I have six of their cameras running along with four others from a different brand. The other four I can manipulate completely via Firefox on HAOS. The Reolink cameras just have no other option than doing the initial setup and advanced configurations from windows. So I keep a lab pc connected to that environment just so if I want to tweek anything like fps, resolution, network settings (IP, gateway, etc) that I’m able to do so. The web interface once enabling the https service on the camera has garbage capabilities compared to my other cameras. It’s not a huge deal, I haven’t had to get into them for advanced settings in a few months but it really annoys me that I can’t do initial configuration and advanced settings from Linux.

        • Liforra@endlesstalk.orgEnglish
          2·
          5 months ago

          True, i hate windows too but there are always debloaters and privacy scripts thatll help a little bit

  • Zeroxxx@lemmy.idEnglish
    122·
    5 months ago

    Pirating Windows for what? It works as full version even if you let it be, watermark does nothing.

  • JackGreenEarth@lemm.eeEnglish
    92·
    5 months ago

    If you want actual libre alternatives - Manjaro GNOME Linux, Krita with the AI Image Generation plugin. I’m sure someone else can suggest one for the third one.

  • darkphotonstudio@beehaw.orgEnglish
    41·
    5 months ago

    Krita has a better brush engine and the AI plugin is amazing. The live AI painting with layers is so cool. It’s like magic

  • meseek #2982@lemmy.caEnglish
    2·
    5 months ago

    When monopolies exist. How everyone didn’t care for the last 25 years is even wilder. Adobe has been controlling the design communities forever *flips water bottle