cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/43662539
[a character is pointing at and berating a strawman made to look like a stereotypical communist]
So, you’re a communist right?
Okay then, solve every single problem in the world right now
Create the perfect society, we’re watching, you have five minutes
Can’t do it? Sounds like your silly ideology is whack then
Tankie!
https://thebad.website/comic/reasonable_request
I hear anti-communist nonsense at work sometimes and this is what it feels like. “Commies tried so many times and it always fails!” (literally ignoring coups and regime changes, AES, that capitalism might kill us all, sex trafficking, etc)
Communism didn’t “fail” so much as it “lost”.
And to be clear, while the dissolution of the Soviet Union was devastating, there are still strong socialist states like China today. Communism didn’t lose, it took a major blow temporarily.
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Me with little theory background and almost 0 economics knowledge trying to advocate for socialism/communism to my right wing coworkers
Honestly the first thing I try to get across to people, and one that most people are receptive to is “What makes a thing itself? It’s relationships with everything else.”
Similar, but from remembering from some yt videos:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overproduction
Non-Marxist version of the similar thing, where the focus is shifted from production to consumption:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnderconsumptionAnd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall
Well they have even less than 0 economics knowledge because the things they know aren’t true/real so it’s probably best to just save your breath because they won’t find the evidence persuasive. They could start by looking at corporate earnings per share under blue vs red administrations but they won’t or will just handwaive.
We are not at all talking about democrats vs republicans. Both are right wing and I am not in the US
What you’re suggesting is hardly relevant to economics literacy, and not at all relevant to communism.
Didnt capitalism take centuries to triumph over feudalism? There was embrionary capitalism in the XV or XVI century, and when the Russian Empire was liberated in 1917, it hadn’t yet completed its transition from feudalism.
Time to progress for me not for thee
Yes. And as an example the French had a long history of going between republic and monarchy. Things don’t go perfectly linearly.
Ask these folks if they have a better idea. They never do and always fall back to capitalism, even though we’re all witnessing capitalists fuck up the entire planet. They won’t even entertain the pieces of a whole as good ideas. It’s either all or nothing. They’ve already skewed the argument in their favor because of capitalist propaganda influence.
“It’s not perfect, but it’s the best system we have.” 🥴
It never ceases to amaze me just how incapable the average person seems to be of imagining something better than the status quo.
They literally don’t though? Most people often express the need for socialist policies and embrace the “chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link” mentality. What are you talking about?
They literally don’t what?
They never do…
They won’t even…
They’ve already…
Gee I dunno 🙄
Excuse me, let me clarify:
In my limited personal experience
It’s literally on this website all the time.
My favorite is when people admit it works in small groups but doesn’t scale. It’s an amazingly defeatist attitude.
The problem stems from centralization. A commander sits at the top of trillions of people is fundamentally wrong, no matter how good he or she is. No one single human shall have that big of an influence to another human.
But those fucking defeatists are disgusting. No one is asking them to solve the problem. Just shut the fuck up when someone else is solving the problems. That’s the least they shall be doing.
To be fair, the idea that someone is supposed to sit at the top of society is a fundamental misunderstanding of socialism past, present, and future.
Nothing funnier than watching people use a strawman themselves while attempting to illustrate an example of a strawman.
So many comics that are just “checkmate, strawman 😎”
Isn’t that the majority of what you post on political memes? To be fair to you, that’s really all political memes are for, to provoke a response. The meme itself is far less important than the possibility for it to spark a discussion in the comments.
There was 70 years…
Pathetic. Im sorry you need attention so badly, but dont force everyone to suffer your idiocy.
