• AryaRaiin@lemmy.world
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    As much as I love the Avatar series, if he’s going to continue it he needs to speed the plot up. And I say that as a pretty diehard nerd for the lore. If he needs every little thing to happen for the lore, he can have a co-writer turn it into a book, like he has for some other Avatar related things.

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      I’m also a diehard fan of the series and I’m really surprised that no one has attempted to adapt the material to a limited series or something. I’m talking a kids-oriented show that focuses on Na’vi rites of passage. Or a more grown-up oriented show that lets us see life in Bridgehead City (a drama about defectors or something). Hell, give me a Jemaine Clement-starring show where we follow him making the Seas of Pandora documentary you know he wants to make in-universe!

      I love Frontiers of Pandora and feel like it really opens up the universe of the films for more varied story-telling.

  • sprack@lemmy.world
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    Noted environmentalist James Francis Cameron has a Venezuelan frog species named after him, while lesser talent Steven Spielberg does not.

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      Celebrated innovator James Cameron has lived a dozen lives. Director, philanthropist, undefeated little league coach! Deep-sea explorer, good at marriage. The list goes on, for he is a titanic talent.

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    No shit, James.

    It’s a theme that didn’t need more than one movie anyway. Bad guys show up and try to displace native peoples. Native peoples fight back and win. The end. (even though history shows the bad guys just come back with more firepower and win in the end through attrition)

    The guy’s got too much talent to waste the rest of his life on a simple one-movie plot.

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      I only saw the original, but the story really wasn’t the point of it. The point was to showcase absolutely stunning eye candy. And to that end, I think it was quite successful.

      I agree that he can do more than that, though.

  • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
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    Avatar are trash. Pretty, but garbage.

    For all their technical advancements they could have been short films to showcase the techniques or Cameron could have bothered to find an actually compelling script.

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    It overstayed its welcome didn’t it? lol. The 3rd one was so samey samey with the others. Although I wish it had a proper resolution, they just kinda left it open-ended

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      I liked that the third movie ever so slightly addressed the tatic of divide and conquer used many times in colonialism. But other than that? Yeah, same as before.

      IMHO the second and third movie should have been merged.

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        he needs fucking 2 more of these god awful movies?? jesus christ, it’s the most simplistic fucking story and he needs FIVE GODAMN MOVIES to show it??

    • TheImpressiveX@piefed.socialOPM
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      He had planned as much as 7 total Avatar films.

      But I guess the deaths of his longtime collaborators James Horner and Jon Landau hit him hard, so he’s deciding to scale it back.

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    It feels like this guy has done nothing but Avatar for like half of his career. I get wanting a franchise that makes it easy to push boundaries in visual effects, but holy hell he needs to move on.

    Put the water and the fire and whatever into films with better plots.

  • Xraygoggles@lemmy.world
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    There was some article I read a long time ago and it’s been doing at too much work propping up my enthusiasm for the franchise.

    Something like an exec or somebody who would send back all these pages of notes read the script to the last one and only came back with “holy shit!”.

    Must’ve been impressed with how much it sucked.

    • MimicJar@lemmy.world
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      Every trailer and media buzz I saw for Alita made it look terrible. I made a joke at the films expense to a coworker and they immediately told me how it was one of their favorite films.

      On a lark I saw it and was surprisingly amazed by it. It has its problems, the boyfriend character and the stupid eyes, but it’s a solid film.

      I would love to see where that series goes. (And I know I could read the source material, but I’m hoping it’ll continue someday.)

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    RIP. Probably coulda gone somewhere with it but it was honestly fine as a standalone with the first one.

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    First one was an experience at the time.

    Went to the second one just for the hell of it. Terrible.

    Didn’t even bother with the third.

    Why make more? No one asked for a trilogy 10 years after the first. Everyone forgot about it except James.

    I honestly wonder if he completely lost his mind in the 2010’s and executives were just politely nodding because his movies can make over a billion.

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      Are YOU FUCKING SERIOUS???

      The second AVATAR movie was the best!

      I wasn’t into drugs at the time, but I wish I was, because I would have loved getting high as fuck and watching them swim with that whale for like 1.5 hours on IMAX. That shit was magical. Honestly, the only thing that could have possibly made that movie even better was MORE whale and less plot.

      Avatar 2 hit so fucking hard.