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flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)@feddit.uk to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish ·
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[Solved] What just happened to 4 million posts?

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[Solved] What just happened to 4 million posts?

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flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)@feddit.uk to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish ·
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Stats from here: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

Like, has an instance gone down and if so, why hasn’t there been a comparable drop in users and comments?

Edit: Thanks to @example@reddthat.com here for pointing to zerobytes.monster becoming more aggressive against bots as the likely culprit.

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  • Squorlple@lemmy.world
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    Believe it or not, they’re all Nicole posts removed by Lemmy.World /s

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      Sorry if this has already been discussed but is anyone else worried that “Nicole’s” pictures are from the webcam on a compromised computer? They’re always from the same angle and she’s not really posing for most of them

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        I think that is the general consensus — that she is likely an unwitting victim

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        I believe someone found an account she did livestreams on somewhere, and the pictures are most likely screen grabs from those. The odds of the person in the pictures being behind the spam are pretty much nil.

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      Wuuut ? Everything mentioning nicole or just posts from “her” accounts ?

      • Squorlple@lemmy.world
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        Only photos and written info that could identify her. The spam accounts probably get banned as they reported. I don’t know of any posts made by any account claiming to be her?

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          Tnx for the info , i meant the repost bots by “her”

          • Squorlple@lemmy.world
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            Repost bots? Do you have an example, either by way of link or screenshot?

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              No, not rly , i just hear about it from other people getting messages/seeing posts but i never recieved any

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                The spam DMs are real, but I think the “reposts” are scuttlebutt based on people not understanding the screenshots of the DMs that they’ve seen in their feed

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      Everyone on the fediverse is Nicole and you can’t prove otherwise.

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    It may have been lemmy.zip

    It did in fact go down for about 48 hours… prompting me to make this new account on dbzer0.

    Basically, the admin attempted to update to a newer lemmy version… and it failed, multiple times, and they just rolled back, restored the old version, posted an explanation and apology, and they’ll be further looking into … exactly what went wrong.

    • flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)@feddit.ukOP
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      But zip has < 50K posts.

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        Maybe they unzipped the archive? /S

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        i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

        I don’t know exactly how that post counter … actually, technically counts posts, but:

        1:

        Zip going down could have uncounted all posts anywhere made by zip accounts.

        2:

        There could have been some kind of… propogating post count negation effect, as various other instances reacted differently to zip users posts on their instances could not pull them anymore, on different time scales.

        3:

        If a zip user had a … top level comment, on another instance, its possible all lower level comments responding to that comment may also have poofed out of existence, in some respect.

        …

        I may be misusing some terminology here, and this is just spitballing, but yeah.

        Almost all of my .zip account’s posts/comments… are not on zip itself, and its possible that that is fairly common amongst .zip users.

        • flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)@feddit.ukOP
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          i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

          ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ => ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          Just so we’re clear, what this crawler does is go through all servers that use ActivityPub known to it, and congregate that data to a list of known services (Lemmy, Mastodon, Piefed etc.). How is does that is by querying a standardised end point to get the instance info (.well-known/nodeinfo which will then point to a different path to get the actual info).

          For instance, here’s what it will collect for feddit.uk:

          nodeinfo json
          // curl -s https://feddit.uk/nodeinfo/2.1 | jq
          {
            "version": "2.1",
            "software": {
              "name": "lemmy",
              "version": "0.19.10-feddit",
              "repository": "https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy",
              "homepage": "https://join-lemmy.org/"
            },
            "protocols": [
              "activitypub"
            ],
            "usage": {
              "users": {
                "total": 4184,
                "activeHalfyear": 718,
                "activeMonth": 485
              },
              "localPosts": 25750,
              "localComments": 122835
            },
            "openRegistrations": true,
            "services": {
              "inbound": [],
              "outbound": []
            },
            "metadata": {}
          }
          

          The important stat here is the localPosts, which is all the posts made by local users in any community, local or remote. It does not include posts by users from remote instances made in local communities. You can also see this data on the instance sidebar in lemmy-ui.

          lemmy.zip going down will only reduce aggregated stats for total posts by 47,280, as that’s what they report for their localPosts.

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Huh.

            Well, I appreciate the info and shrugging magic, but uh… hrm.

            I dunno then.

            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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            Do comments count as posts? Because losing all comments from an instance would probably explain such a huge dip

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      Is divide by zero becoming the most based instance? How did a single bro make best lemmy?!?

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        deleted by creator

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          That’s the most based thing I’ve heard all year–where can I learn more about this decentralization endeavor?

          That’s it–I’m making an account now. This comment sealed the deal

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            Db0 is super into decentralization! Everybody should make their account there!

            …wait.

          • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Welcome!

            !div0_governance@lemmy.dbzer0.com should be it

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      • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I’d say dbzer0 is probably the most leftist, at least from what I’ve seen. I personally don’t go as far as being an anarchist but can appreciate the philosophy. I probably have more in common with anarchy than democratic/plurality governance, if I’m being honest with myself.

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          Wait… dbzer0 is “divide by zero”?

          I’ve been reading it as “dibzer nought”

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            If I were to pronounce it outloud, I would say:

            D. B. Zero.

            Like D. B. Cooper, lol.

            the… zer(o), 0 swap is… basically old school l33tsp34k… like uh… l00tb0x, pr0n, type of … dialect? syntax?

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              I thought it stood for database zero.

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          Lately I’ve been seeing a lot of comments coming from that instance that are indistinguishable from the ones I see from .ml.

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            • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              The admin db0 does have a distrust in democracy

              Clarification: Representative/Capitalist democracy. Not all types of democracy.

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                • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  I’m not familiar with it

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              I haven’t seen a “don’t vote in elections” stance myself but the fact that you can say that and not get banned is a positive.

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        Bc he’s just that chill, obviously! 😁

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      Hm, could be indeed

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        https://lemmy.zip/post/35999238

        Here’s the post.

        Evidently, Demigodrick has since fixed the problems and successfully upgraded to 0.19.11

        https://lemmy.zip/post/36177918

        EDIT: Alternate explanation: The fediverse tracker has fallen victim to Trump Tariffs as well rofl.

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    Nicole posts were banned and deleted en mass?

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    I think this is zerobytes.monster, one of the reddit mirror instances.

    the post count fits and it also matches with the user count not significantly dropping.

    that instance has been using rather strict waf blocking rules from time to time that likely also affect the crawler for fediverse.observer.

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      Yeah, I thought it must be a Reddit repost instance, thanks for pointing to the right one.

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      Seems like the answer @flamingos@feddit.uk

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      I missed your reply weeks ago, and I know upvotes are worthless, but you deserve most of mine from this thread =P

      Its been a long time since I have actually seen crowd sourcing actually work in a non exploitative way to solve a problem, be productive.

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    I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced…

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    Removed by mod

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      They just got up and left.

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    The front fell off

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      In case anyone hasn’t seen this bit:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

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        LOL my sides Is this real or a bit/sketch?

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          It’s a sketch about a real incident.

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        That’s gold!

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    @blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com decided that he doesn’t need his alt accounts anymore.

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      Please don’t compare me to a Reddit mirror instance 🥲

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        Ah, so that’s what zerobytes.monster is?

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          Yes, see this comment: https://reddthat.com/comment/17985896

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    “I felt a great disturbance in the Force…as if millions of posts were routed to dev/null and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.”

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    All of universal monk’s alts got deleted

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      Is that the guy with a friend?

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        No, I’m positive universal monk has no friends

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    I remember a bot purge, but I’m not sure if that was around the same time.

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    Interesting drop

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    Aha! Checking back a week or so later, glad this was actually solved!

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