!fark@ibbit.at is, anyway. I see it in all sometimes.

Edit: Or do I? I know I see posts from the Fark RSS feed not infrequently in all, but the actual community so named seems dead.

The article doesn’t clarify whether this is one of the resolutions that can be vetoed… if it is, it’s unfortunately definitely DOA. No way it won’t get at least a US veto.

In retrospect, it’s kind of wild how many of us (myself sadly included) actually believed Google’s “Don’t be evil” thing instead of seeing it as a “My “Not involved in human trafficking” T-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt.” situation.

There were definitely long term colonies in a lot of places, but most of those places are no longer under settler control. The damage to be repaired is huge, and there’s still economic control from a distance going on, but it’s miles different from what happened in the Americas, especially North America, I’d say.

I’m honestly convinced that the Americas would have eventually repelled the European invaders if the introduced (and intentionally spread) diseases weren’t so devastating. Guns and metal armor are pretty good in warfare and all, but the size of the army required to subjugate millions of people across varied terrain where the invaders are wildly unfamiliar with the land and how to live in it while the defenders have been present for thousands of years, are very familiar with the land, have established warfare traditions, quickly adapt to introduced technologies, and have allied with historic enemies to repel invaders? Does not tend to go well for the invaders.

I am absolutely stealing “Europe just got a lucky spawn.”

Camels.

For it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to gain entrance into heaven…

They worship wealth, they claim to follow these teachings and to know them well, and they expect to enter heaven? Then they are camels, lining up for the eyes of needles and expecting easy passage.

EDIT: Wait, wait.

Scamels.

You can’t kill anyone with a telescope

Well, not with THAT attitude.

(I really have been enjoying your posts here, please do not take this as anything but me shitposting.)

Oh, like… all of them? Not quite, no. There were about…500 to 600 different Native nations in North America, I think, plus more in Mesoamerica and South America? Across a huge diversity of different landscapes. Some of them were nomadic hunter-gatherers, a few were settled hunter-gatherers, but a very large amount of Native nations were agricultural and either settled in one place year round or had a winter and summer home deal where they transited between the two. A huge amount of foods that are now well established worldwide were bred in the Americas as agricultural crops, including corn, many varieties of beans, tomatoes, potatoes, a number of squashes, and sunflowers. There were several heavily populated urban centers as well – check out the Inca, the Maya, the Aztecs, and in North America the Mississippian Mound Building culture, and the Pueblo culture for examples of heavily populated cities. The Iroquois/Haudenosaunee Confederacy also were settled agriculturalists, though I believe they also did have substantial hunting and gathering activity (agriculturalist vs. hunter/gatherer is more of a spectrum than a binary choice) and I don’t believe they had population centers that were true large urban centers like the other examples I listed.

Which “they”?

Interestingly enough, I just finished watching The Lost Metallurgy of the Ancient Americas video, and not only were some cannons made of bronze, but apparently the Conquistadors did actually have some Mesoamerican Natives make some artillery for them using native metallurgy techniques and the locally mined copper/bronze the Natives were already making.¹

¹ Copper alloyed with arsenic forms a sort of bronze, and copper-tin alloys were also used for the bronze best known nowadays.

I’m extremely confused by the thesis of your argument here. What is the point you’re trying to make?

Thanks for the answers! I do have one question here – I notice amaranth doesn’t get mentioned in your write-up. Do you know much about its role? I know its seeds nutritionally have protein content almost on par with quinoa and that its leaves are good as a green like spinach, and that unlike quinoa (AFAIK) it did spread north a fair amount, but it doesn’t seem like it ever got the focus corn did despite being a pseudo-grain.

Speaking only of that which I learned from the video I linked, my understanding is that cold-hammered copper actually hardens a fair amount. There’s a demo using an axe with a cold hammered replica copper blade where he cuts down a tree, for example, and some tests using copper tipped spears. Also, cold hammered copper fishing hooks, which had advantages over bone fishing hooks inreparability and flexibility and would have been useful for fishing in the Great Lakes area. There are still tradeoffs, though, and stone tools were still in widespread use for things they were better for, but there was still a lot of utility in cold hammered copper.

If you desire to provide corrections in response to any of these comments, I would love to see it.

Not sarcasm, I come here to learn.

Who is this and what does this have to do with self hosting?

That’s where syphilis came from?? Man, I really do learn so much from this community.

Also the Old Copper Culture of the Great Lakes area! The area has a lot of natural workable copper deposits that are pure enough to be shaped with campfire level heat and stone, not requiring the intensive smelting techniques that were required for metalworking in much of the rest of the metalworking world.

NORTH 02 on YouTube has some great videos about the metallurgy of the pre-Columbian Americas; I literally just watched the one on the Old Copper Culture today, and have his video on the larger metallurgical traditions of the Americas saved to watch.

The Old Copper Culture: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L0E0ueRnBLw

The Lost Metallurgy of the Ancient Americas: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tfwjM4e42cE

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