Seems to me the fear of overloading one instance over another will not happen after all.

But I do hope the Threadiverse can hit 500,000 consistent active users by the end of summer.

Give me that hopium guys! 💉

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    If everyone already here just stays here, I’d be happy. We’ve already hit a nice place.

    Lemmy is not a business, so it doesn’t necessarily need a constant influx of new users. Sustainability is based on user experience, not endless growth.

    Edit: actually last sentence kind of dumb. Sustainability based on keeping the servers running and user experience.

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        Without multiple instances, Lemmy would effectively be more like reddit (one entity controlling the whole thing). If that instance goes down, or it decides you can’t talk about topic X, or it does anything that affects you as a user – you have no option but to love it or leave it.

        With multiple instances, if one becomes trouble, you just move to another. You can read and post to other instances from any other federated instance, so you get some freedom in that regard, and you’re not really tied to any one entity (you’re always beholden to the rules of your home instance, but you can also freely instance hop).

        The best reddit analogy is probably using subreddits: imagine if one subreddit actually ran the whole site. R/spez one day decided to change the rules on yoiu, and you disagreed-- what option do you have? Well, in that setup, you simply start interacting on other subreddits. Lemmy kind of works this way, but there the subreddits are instances which control your login info, and there are communities within those instances that everyone elsewhere on the site can access.

        The related technical advantage is still that no one instance runs the whole federation. Lemmy.world is big (likely because a lot od ex-redditors thought it was the one to switch to), but it doesn’t control the rest of the federation. If it got shut down, for example, users on it would need a new instance, but the federation itself would be exactly as it was.

        It’s kind of like grass-roots networking, if that makes sense to you. One could also argue it’s a bit like like bittorrent for forums.

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        I don’t fully understand the instances, other than it provides the whole idea behind this, being multiple servers, no one master that can run and change and whatnot. But if I join one of these other servers (I’m on world), do I have access to the same things or does it change? My reason for staying on world in spite of some of the hiccups is my subs are here and it’s where I’ve been active.

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            I’ve only been using Lemmy for a couple days, since Boost finally shit the bed. My only gripe so far is that there are multiple communities with both the same name and purpose but on different instances.

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              And that’s good. No more “subreddits” monopoly. If a mod or mod team goes against the will of their users they can just move on another instance without needing to use another name (and it’s easier to find afterward). As a user, you just need to subscribe to these redundant communities (or not if you don’t care about federation but if not why are you on Lemmy) and it will appear in your front-page as if it was one and only community.

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    I imagine any time a given server’s quality drops, people will just move to another one. I had login issues for a few days on lemmy.world and started using lemmy.ml.

    I think its a good thing, healthy for the ecosystem that there’s not only redundancy where one site having a moment doesn’t kill everyone’s ability to use lemmy, and also provides a clear incentive for individual servers to provide good service.

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        Were you able to export your list of subscriptions and import into another instance? I thought that would be a feature, but I can’t find it on lemmy.world

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          It’s not a feature of Lemmy itself yet, though I’ve seen one person attempting a PR and there are issues for it. It will arrive at some point but could be awhile.

          I made a tool to do it (subscriptions, blocks, and profile settings) in the meantime: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

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    I made an alt on a smaller instance when all the trouble with lemmy.world was happening, and I was thinking of making the alt my main, but I’m too lazy to port all my subscribed communities over, so this is still where I’m gonna be. I still browse from my alt sometimes, because the feeds are different.

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    I have an account on lemmy.world, but when I ping it, I’m in the 100ms. I ended up on lemmy.ca where the ping is 3ms average, it makes a big difference in responsiveness.

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      That’s a terrible justification. lemmy.world is using Hetzner, and not a CDN whereas lemmy.ca is using Cloudflare, which is a CDN. Pinging is a terrible benchmark for comparing server performance.

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        What is a better way to compare server performance in this context? (Actually curious, sincerely asking)

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          One good way would be HTTP response times from the API, since that is not something that would be cached by Cloudflare at the edge.

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      Not to mention it has had severe secuirty issues and irresponsible mods.

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    I think a problem for new users is failing to understand how the Fediverse works. It’s not something apparent and not something you can expect everyone to understand right off the bat. A user may start out on a heavily loaded instance and get discouraged by poor response. They either figure out they need to find a better instance or base their opinion of the whole on that one experience and give up altogether.

    Lemmy.ml and lemmy.world can suffer from heavy user load and bog down at times. That situation can be avoided by selecting an instance that’s not too heavily loaded. There’s a large number to choose from. It may be necessary to shop around for a good one. In technical terms, find a regionally local instance with low hops, fast ping, and good server response. Also admin settings and quality can be a consideration. I actually signed up on four instances before I found one I really liked.

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      I’ve found since 18.2 that Lemmy.ml is as reliable as ressot for me. Compared to June I’ve had no hanging, errors, or issues accessing pages.

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    I just signed up for a more local instance, but I’ve been looking for an easier way to swap over my subscriptions

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    Probably because lemmy.world stops working with half the apps every other day. Some days I can only use it with Thunder, other times only Jeroba, other days it works with every app except Liftoff. There’s just no predictable pattern to it and I’ve found myself just avoiding lemmy.world lately because I don’t want to type out a 3 paragraph comment just to find that my app isn’t logging in to lemmy.world today.

    heh, would you look at that. It won’t let me post this comment on Jeroba so I had to log in with a browser. This is fuckin bullshit. I’m going back to sh.itjustworks until this gets fixed.

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    The fuck did you just call this? The threadiverse? Nu-uh, fuck the meta fucks, this is the Fediverse.

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        I’m really having hard time grasping what goes through people’s minds when deciding to be so damn aggressive off the bat. We’re all just trying to have a good time here.

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          Yeah, it’s completely unnecessary. People in real life are rarely this rude off the bat so idk why some folks think it’s okay to become such an edgelord when they sit behind a keyboard. Do they not realize there’s human beings on the other side of the screen?

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      Threadiverse predates threads I’m pretty sure. Reddit is composed of threads, reddit fediverse being threadiverse makes sense. Maybe less so now though.

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      It’s not a bad name. It’s the fediverse, but for threaded conversation. The threadiverse nickname has been floating around far longer than Meta’s rushed Twitter clone.