• Oliver Lowe@lemmy.sdf.org
      11·
      2 years ago

      It’s that pesky root user, right? There’s loads of their files on my system. I can’t edit any of them. Don’t know why they are so protective.

      • merthyr1831@lemmy.world
        22·
        2 years ago

        Linux From Scratch is a series of (online) books that walk you through building up your own linux system from the ground up, from compiling the kernel to all the individual systems that turn the kernel into a functional OS.

        It’s meant to be an educational tool to help people learn about what goes into making a Linux distribution and give you better knowledge of how to build software from source. Some people turn these systems into their own distributions or personal (I guess gentoo-like?) Linux installs

      • jecxjo@midwest.socialEnglish
        6·
        2 years ago

        Not only can you make your own OS but you can use one of the package managers and build your own repo and do a whole ecosystem yourself.

        I used LFS to build a distro for embedded systems I designed at work. Was a fun experience but way too much work.

    • first_must_burn@lemmy.world
      41·
      2 years ago

      Serious question: what do you not like about snaps? I find the isolation and dependency desolation to be pretty great.

      • AProfessional@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        2 years ago

        Snap is vendor lock in. They don’t work on many distros, tooling pushes their platform, and they control the only store.

        For desktop apps Flatpak is just technically better anyway so what’s the point.

  • pH3ra@lemmy.ml
    641·
    2 years ago

    I spent the last 10 mins reading all the comments and I think we managed to shit on all the distros available.
    That’s the Linux community I love, good job people <3

    • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pubEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      Haven’t seen Santoku or Kali or several other special use-case distros (E: or Hannah Montana Linux hahahaha). But, yes, this is exactly the community I love and that extreme hate/love for specific distros is the reason I tried Linux in the first place (and the reason I stayed) hahaha

  • CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml
    57·
    2 years ago

    Ubuntu - It was my first distro and I loved it for many years after 6.06. However, it slowly shifted from a very community focused distro (“Linux for human beings” was the original slogan) to a very corporate distro with lots of in-house bullshit, CLAs, and partially-closed projects that seems to focus on profit and business over actual human beings. I correlate this move to around the time when it became purple rather than brown. Snap sucks, Mir sucks, Unity sucks, integrating Amazon and music store paid bullshit sucks. Just no. Move to Debian.

    Manjaro - It’s Arch, but with incompetence!

    Red Hat - Do you enjoy paying licensing fees for a Linux distro that very likely violates the open source licenses it uses? RHEL is for you! Just remember not to share the code! Sharing is most certainly NOT caring!

    • wim@lemmy.sdf.org
      31·
      2 years ago

      How does Manjaro add incompetence? I’ve not used either for a while, buy Manjaro never failed me, while arch did manage to make my system nuke itself a couple times just running pacman -Syyu. Granted, this was a long time ago, but it’s the only distro to so this to me ever.

      • CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml
        30·
        2 years ago

        The project maintainers repeatedly forget to renew their certificates, causing package upgrades to fail.

        The project maintainers, in multiple past instances, have misconfigured their package manager resulting in essentially a DDoS of the AUR.

        The packages are out of date vs. the upstream Arch ones, which often causes AUR packages intended for upstream Arch to break on Manjaro. Yet they consider the AUR a supported resource.

        Project has had problems with mismanagement of funds in the past.

        Despite all this, they seem to heavily focus on marketing, merch, and trying to sell preinstalled systems. Manjaro is in it for profit, not to make an awesome distro.

        • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          3·
          2 years ago

          did they ever start backporting security patches? I know that was a major issue in the early days that really soured me on the competence of the project. you cannot take a rolling release distro, bless some package versions as “stable” and call it a day.

      • 20gramsWrench@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        311·
        2 years ago

        it’s a reddit imported hate-train because they didn’t renew certificates twice in twenty years and a bug in pamac cause the aur to be ddosed for a few hours total, to tell you how much of an empty bandwagon it is, few years back, manjaro tried to push a closed source office suite in their base installers and none of the clowns parroting anti-manjaro mantras ever mention it, they didn’t think about adding it to the agreed list of accusations in the early days so their copy pasted opinions don’t feature it.

      • CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml
        18·
        2 years ago

        If that were true then none of this would be news. The CentOS Stream code is available to the public on git, but not the RHEL code. If the RHEL code was available to the public the outrage would have no reason to exist.

        Even if paying customers have access to the RHEL code via git, they are forbidden from redistributing it (which is allowed by the FOSS licenses that code is under) or else the customers lose their license. This does not qualify as the code being available in my opinion, and in the opinion of the vast majority of the FOSS community.

        Saying everything is fine and dandy in the RHEL world is FUD.

  • yum13241@lemm.ee
    57·
    2 years ago

    Manjaro, for its incompetence.

    I don’t hate Gentoo, but will never use it. I hate compiling.

  • SomeBoyo@feddit.de
    45·
    2 years ago

    Manjaro, because because the team behind it fuck’s up a bit to often for my tastes. And Ubuntu, because they force snap onto their users.

  • conner5@discuss.tchncs.de
    382·
    2 years ago

    Ubuntu, dont understand me wrong, the distro is nice but, canonical… My point because i dont like Ubuntu.

  • YⓄ乙 @aussie.zone
    32·
    2 years ago

    Wish Linux Devs help build and polish OS for Pinephone. I really want Linux to go mainstream. Tired of android and Apple.

      • TheBiGuy@reddthat.com
        6·
        2 years ago

        This! I used Ubuntu Touch as my daily driver for 1 1/2 years. The OS itself was anything but perfect but the real problem was definetly the app ecosystem. WayDroid(an android “emulator”) optimization is probably the way to go for linux on mobile

      • Fisch@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        Waydroid could fix that gap tho, the same way Wine/Proton does on the desktop

  • LeFantome@programming.dev
    32·
    2 years ago

    Manjaro because it is a bait and switch trap. Seems really polished and user friendly. You will find out eventually it is a system destroying time-bomb and a poorly managed project.

    Ubuntu because snaps.

    The rest are all pros and cons that are different strokes for different folks.

    • moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      5·
      2 years ago

      Every time I have used manjaro on x86 it has been broken within a few months. Their Raspberry Pi 4 port is pretty stable though for some reason.

  • boeman@lemmy.world
    331·
    2 years ago

    I absolutely hated myself after installing Arch on one of my machines.

    Then I discovered EndeavourOS… I still hate myself but at least my laptop works now.

  • Stillhart@lemm.ee
    29·
    2 years ago

    Garuda. It feels like being inside a gaming rig full of blinking RGB lights. Way over the top with the “gamer aesthetic”.

    • vettnerk@lemmy.mlOP
      13·
      2 years ago

      Same reason but different vibe with Kali for me. I’m sure it’s good for its intended purpose, but I get the feeling that there are many who install it in an attempt at being a kewl h4x0r. I used used Parrotsec for work for a while, and it’s a lot less flamboyant about it.

  • Defaced@lemmy.ml
    303·
    2 years ago

    This is gonna be an unpopular opinion, but Linux mint. It’s great if you’re just getting into Linux, it’s absolutely terrible when you know what you’re doing in Linux. The old package base and kernel just kills me sometimes. I get they want a stable base and use the lts versions of Ubuntu, but my goodness it’s always so far behind it’s not even worth using if you’re on AMD. Thankfully they’ve realized this after so many years and are releasing an EDGE iso with updated packages and kernel and LMDE is getting a version upgrade.

    • taj@lemmy.ml
      5·
      2 years ago

      I’ve never cared for mint because I don’t really want my Linux to look like Windows. Which is what mint does.

    • vettnerk@lemmy.mlOP
      4·
      2 years ago

      Not really an unpopular opinion. My main desktop runs mint, and we’re well aware of that being an issue. But it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make as long as it works. I haven’t had enough issues to look for replacement yet. ZorinOS looks interesting, though.

      For servers and work I use other distros.

      • Pyro@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        I love Zorin, probably for more superficial reasons than most. I like a clean UI and Zorin provides that by default, no fiddling. I get that people like customisability and ricing and all that, and if I could design my OS as easily as I could write CSS then I probably would, but I’ve yet to find something that lets me do that. And even if I do find it, Zorin still looks good and just works, which is most of what I care about.

      • Defaced@lemmy.ml
        21·
        2 years ago

        Yeah there’s just not really a big enough reason to move away from Ubuntu unless you’re really wanting to avoid snaps (which I completely understand)

    • Magister@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 years ago

      I tried it years ago after years and years of Ubuntu. I installed Mint Cinnamon, it was the shit at the time, #1 distro and all. I wanted to like it but was never able to. After less than 2 years I switched to MX/Xfce and still use it, best distro ever.

      But Mint is really bleh 🙁

      • Defaced@lemmy.ml
        2·
        2 years ago

        How is MX? What do you like over other distros? I see it at the top of the distrowatch list all the time but I’ve never really found anything special or stand out with the distro.

  • mister_monster@monero.town
    314·
    2 years ago

    Ubuntu, because of their shenanigans with ads in the OS, forcing snap and just generally demonstrating disdain for their userbase.

    Manjaro for their office suite debacle, and general instability.

    RHEL for their recent attempts to subvert GPL.

    Debian because packages are never, ever, ever up to date.

    Gentoo because any sane person would get sick of compiling.

    • vettnerk@lemmy.mlOP
      9·
      2 years ago

      I actually like Gentoo for the same reason you hate it. But I was a FreeBSD guy for around 10 years before migrating to linux, and I probably some long lasting damage still lingering from that era.

      • pedro@lemm.ee
        3·
        2 years ago

        Damn I’m contemplating going to FreeBSD. What made you go the other way? What do you miss from FreeBSD?

        • vettnerk@lemmy.mlOP
          4·
          2 years ago

          I miss /usr/ports. I could spend days just exploring its contents.

          I miss an /etc structure that wasn’t a complete mess.

          I miss UFS and its soft updates.

          I miss the stability of fBSD 3 and 4.

          I miss the ease of which you tweaked, compiled, and installed a new kernel.

          And just because of the hilarious legacy that was obsolete 20 years beforw I started with it, I miss the concept of font-servers.

          The main reason for my migration was the bigger userbase of linux where it was easier to find people who has resolved whatever issue I was having, plus nvidia drivers. Plus I’ve only needed to use fBSD once professionally.

          • pedro@lemm.ee
            1·
            2 years ago

            From your experience I don’t see red flags for me so I’ll probably try for my next reinstall. Thanks for your honest opinion

      • mister_monster@monero.town
        21·
        2 years ago

        Well, I like gentoo for it’s top notch security and I see why you’d use it for extremely security sensitive applications, but people that use it as a desktop are nuts.

        • zagaberoo@beehaw.org
          2·
          2 years ago

          I’m not saying anyone is wrong for shying away from Gentoo, but using a comprehensive desktop environment, systemd, and gentoo-kernel gives a very non-fiddly experience.

          Combine that with running updates overnight or honestly just running them in the background while you work, and it’s not nearly as bad as its reputation.

          Still very much a commitment vs other distros, but not as bonkers as it can seem.