I get it, but I don’t see it as all or nothing. If you want to be an artist, but you’re “creating” with gen AI, I’m not interested.
If you have something inside your head that you want to just show someone, and its not intended to be art, or remembered, then should you spend years practising to use some medium in order to create it yourself?
If you have something inside your head that you want to just show someone, and its not intended to be art, or remembered, then should you spend years practising to use some medium in order to create it yourself?
How many resources does that use, and opportunity cost in time spent, vs a occasional generation? I have a fair idea. Creating stuff is fun if that’s your goal. Dedicating time and resources to become an artist only to convey a bit of info occasionally, not so much.
People have been communicating ideas through stick figures and poorly drawn lines for about as long as people have been drawing.
Edit to add: perspective and shading are also extremely modern techniques, invented during the Renaissance. Every castle, every cathedral, every bridge, and everything before then would have been planned and communicated without any way to communicate a 3 dimensional shape in 2 dimensions
Does that not illustrate the point? Our methods and tech for expressing ideas have come a long way. Historically, there would have been more people (at least proportionally) who lacked the means to communicate their ideas as fully as they would have if they’d had access to the same education and resources as we do now. It’s an analogous situation that there are now technologies one can direct to (potentially) communicate an idea better than if one first had to achieve decent artistic competency to produce a similar result.
You might want to revisit your maths, there. There’s no way sitting at a computer learning Krita for months uses less electricity than a few prompts to an AI, and there’s no requirement that the AI in use has to be running remotely at one of those big, fuck-you data centres owned by Anthropic, OpenAI, or whoever.
I get it, but I don’t see it as all or nothing. If you want to be an artist, but you’re “creating” with gen AI, I’m not interested.
If you have something inside your head that you want to just show someone, and its not intended to be art, or remembered, then should you spend years practising to use some medium in order to create it yourself?
Yes, because creating stuff is fun.
How many resources does that use, and opportunity cost in time spent, vs a occasional generation? I have a fair idea. Creating stuff is fun if that’s your goal. Dedicating time and resources to become an artist only to convey a bit of info occasionally, not so much.
People have been communicating ideas through stick figures and poorly drawn lines for about as long as people have been drawing.
Edit to add: perspective and shading are also extremely modern techniques, invented during the Renaissance. Every castle, every cathedral, every bridge, and everything before then would have been planned and communicated without any way to communicate a 3 dimensional shape in 2 dimensions
yeah but perspective and shading ruined art of cats.

Does that not illustrate the point? Our methods and tech for expressing ideas have come a long way. Historically, there would have been more people (at least proportionally) who lacked the means to communicate their ideas as fully as they would have if they’d had access to the same education and resources as we do now. It’s an analogous situation that there are now technologies one can direct to (potentially) communicate an idea better than if one first had to achieve decent artistic competency to produce a similar result.
i mean if you want to do a cost:benefit analysis doing it yourself wins every time
You might want to revisit your maths, there. There’s no way sitting at a computer learning Krita for months uses less electricity than a few prompts to an AI, and there’s no requirement that the AI in use has to be running remotely at one of those big, fuck-you data centres owned by Anthropic, OpenAI, or whoever.