• some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Why shouldn’t they? Margins are going to be tight btw, so they’re really not. What they’re really selling is a vehicle for Steam.

    BTW, try putting together a same or better spec build yourself and get back to us with the cost.

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      2 days ago

      They’re also trying to make Steam OS available to install on any PC, so any argument of “AlL tHeY tHiNk AbOuT iS pRoFiTs” goes out the door there. I think the only struggle right now is getting it to work with NVidia graphics cards or something.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 days ago

        For like $50-$100 cheaper. And they all ignored the small form factor which could easily cost that.

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          19 hours ago

          The small form factor isn’t really a big thing people care about. It definitely doesn’t outweigh it being outdated, underpowered, and forever stuck at that power level.

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        2 days ago

        You can build and buy a pre-built PC that easily outperforms the Steam console.

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          2 days ago

          that does not make sense. you are not building a pre-built, because then its not a pre-built. is the sky cloudy over there?

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            2 days ago

            I meant that pre-built or DIY are both better deals. I realize now that I should have been more clear.

            This Steam console is bad when discussing performance and value. It has a nice design.

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                2 days ago

                I really feel like Valve spend a bunch of R&D to make something that doesn’t fix any issues with PC gaming.

                1. It’s noticeably less powerful than comparably priced PCs

                2. It’s noticeably less powerful than consoles costing hundreds of dollars less

                3. It doesn’t come with a controller.

                4. It is not customizable in any meaningful way. 

                 This feels like a valves version of the Wii U. Neat hardware, but ultimately underpowered and overpriced with little to no way to lower the cost.

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                  2 days ago

                  It’s noticeably less powerful than comparably priced PCs

                  those are bigger, and many people that want to game on TV don’t want such a bulky box besides it.

                  It’s noticeably less powerful than consoles costing hundreds of dollars less

                  console makers are selling their consoles at a loss, because they expect you to buy insanely overpriced games or get a subscription.

                  I think it was said in the GN video that valve couldn’t sell it at a loss even if they wanted to, because they are essentially selling a PC and they would be targeted with antitrust lawsuits for selling at a loss

                  It is not customizable in any meaningful way.

                  I guess that’s the price of consoles and tiny PCs. you won’t be able to make them without custom components.

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                    18 hours ago

                    Consoles aren’t sold at any significant loss these days, haven’t been for a few generations. It’s pretty much been profitable with the purchase of a single game or controller.

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      2 days ago

      Why shouldn’t they?

      Because they are a for profit company with a billionaire ceo. Making profits it’s their job.

      BTW, try putting together a same or better spec build yourself and get back to us with the cost.

      The price you pay for something in a store is not the same price valve pays for a stock of parts. They buy the same stuff for a lot cheaper and resell it at an higher price to make profits.