• CryptoKitten@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    I am interested in survivalism but it seems like most survivalists are a bunch of god-fearing crazy racist motherfuckers.

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      9 months ago

      Bushcrafting content has a fine line when it pushes over into doomsday prepper. I can get the ideas of having a bit of food/water stocked up for a normal emergency. But if you are preparing industrial quantities of things to survive for years in a bunker you should seek help.

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        9 months ago

        “prepper” vs “Prepper” with a capital “P”.

        The first learns and practices actual useful skills – gardening, food preservation, repairing their own things, etc. The later are dorks buying a ton of unnecessary shit shilled by right-wing influencers cosplaying as “entirely self-sufficient”.

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      9 months ago

      I remember when survivalists were predominately hippie types who feared a right-wing generated apocalypse - like corporatism collapsing the economy, or warmongers starting WW3. The back-to-nature ones learned self-sufficient organic farming, the tech ones bought nitrogen-filled plastic bins of grain, and they all grew weed. Then when rednecks joined the club it became more about homemade ammunition and defending the perimeter.

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        9 months ago

        I think hippie ‘survivalist’ material can be foundbunder ‘homesteading’ more easily. Still a portion of exclusionary-supremacists and superstitious-dogmatics, but somewhat fewer in my experience. More sustainable growing techniques, with the guns chapter further back in the book. More mutual aid networking, less barrel frotting.

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          9 months ago

          left tends to be pro-social for solutions, right tends to be pro-violence for solutions, so… yeah…

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          9 months ago

          Sadly there’s some truth to that. Moral perfectionism is so common among liberals, publicly expressing your interests can be a minefield.

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      9 months ago

      Man, I was really invested in that in like 2016 but in 2018 was the election of Bolsonaro. Some time before, during the election and until now every fucking content creator or community around this hobby became a cesspool of right wing dickheads worshipping this fascist.

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        9 months ago

        As someone from a small town in the pacific northwest, it feels like they always have been. It was just a case of the quiet part not being said out loud or them masking it enough those with lower exposure didn’t see it.

        I drive a pickup, grew up hunting and fishing and I’m tall, pretty thick, tattooed all to hell and bearded… the amount of “hell yeah brother” followed by some vial, racist, homo/transphobic shit I have said to me is staggering. The moment of pushback has become a high for me. I’m almost baiting them from a conversation about tree stands and elk piss formulas into some fucked statement about trans athlete’s just too feel something.

        That said, it isn’t all of us so I don’t want to gate keep survivalism and general outdoorsiness. Always willing to teach a flytie, how to dig a shit hole and the easiest way to catch water with a tarp.

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          Same boat here (PNW big bearded dude). I actually got handed a 'White Pride’s card last week. Before I had the full beard nobody ever said racists shit to me unless it was accusatory. Now they think I’m on their side.

          Doesn’t help that I’m into survivalism, permaculture, and off-grid living. I’m constantly fighting the algorithm that wants to feed me ultra conservative bullshit.

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            9 months ago

            The algorithm is insane for that crap. I’m in a band with a bunch of other 40 something dudes and the shit they get in their feeds is wild. I’m too paranoid to raw dog the Internet or have conventional social media so I miss most of the hateful crap. The screen shots they share in the group chat are wild.

            One of the guys owns a roofing business and that’s likely the most toxic feed I’ve seen. Its a miracle he isn’t fully maga-activated.