AI Summary:

Tesla’s 2024 financial results were disappointing, with several key points highlighted:

  • Automotive Revenues: Fell by 8% in Q4 2024 compared to Q4 2023, totaling $19.8 billion.
  • Energy and Storage Revenues: More than doubled, growing by 113% to $3 billion in Q4 2024.
  • Services: Grew by 31% in Q4 2024, contributing $2.8 billion.
  • Total Revenue: Increased by 2% in Q4 2024, but income fell by 23%, with an operating margin of 6.2%.
  • Net Profits: Dropped by 71% to $2.3 billion in Q4 2024.
  • Annual Performance: Automotive revenues decreased by 6% to $77 billion in 2024. Energy generation and storage increased by 67% to $10 billion. Services grew by 27%, bringing in $10.5 billion.
  • Gross Profits: Fell by 1%, with net profits dropping by 53% to $7.1 billion for the year.
  • Free Cash Flow: Decreased by 18% to $3.6 billion.
  • Regulatory Credits: $2.8 billion of profit came from selling regulatory credits, not from core business activities.
  • Future Predictions: Tesla expects energy storage revenues to grow by at least 50% year-over-year and aims to grow automotive sales by more than 60% in 2025.

Despite the poor financial results, Tesla’s share price increased by 103% over the same period.

  • boonhet@lemm.ee
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    13 hours ago

    I can barely see how they were so popular up to now anyway. I, too, thought they were cool like 10 years ago, when they were the only real electric car (Leaf and I-Miev don’t count and we didn’t get the Bolt or Volt here, only Opel Ampera and Ampera-E, which are ultra rare). Then a couple of years later, I realized some things, in this order: 1) Tesla interiors are THE BLANDEST THING EVER, 2) Elon Musk’s been seeming increasingly weird starting with the cave diving incident, 3) Tesla quality control is absolute shite

    Tesla changed the world by proving you CAN have good range and performance in an EV, but now they’re way past their prime. The Germans, Swedes, Koreans and now I believe EVEN THE CHINESE make better EVs. I have no experience with non-Tesla American EVs to comment on those, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they surpass Tesla in overall quality of vehicle in a few years too.

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      2 hours ago

      As an owner of a recent one, but before Musk’s issues got so hard to ignore, it has good quality, as did everyone I look at. Tesla had some very well publicized quality issues, when they were hand-building the first vehicles, scaling up the model 3, and trying to build the very different technology of the cybertruck, but their normal, recent cars seem fine

      As a gadget freak, teslas have many features that just don’t exist on other vehicles. Has any other manufacturer even gotten over-the-air updates right?

      Several of the other vehicles you mentioned aren’t available in the US. We can expect increased protectionism so they never will be.

      At least at the time, my Tesla was the lowest price EV with capabilities I wanted. The incentives made a huge difference but I don’t think it would qualify anymore plus they appear to be getting cancelled

      We did have a wave of vehicles expected over the next couple years that may give some competition, if those legacy manufacturers don’t retreat to selling ICE trucks and SUVs only. However GM botching the Trailblazer, and Volkswagen screwing up the software on their attempts do not bode well. Hyundai/Kia has some good possibilities. The high end has several good possibilities but for too high a price and too low a volume

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      9 hours ago

      Service being up 30% is a bad thing for the consumer. For a vehicle that doesn’t require much at all in the way of service…

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        8 hours ago

        I’m not sure what Services means there though. It could very well include subscriptions rather than the actual servicing of their cars? Or maybe both?

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          6 hours ago

          re though. It could very well include subscriptions rather than the actual servicing of their cars? Or maybe both?

          true. the report is very very vague

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        10 hours ago

        Well yeah, they’re about as Swedish now as Chrysler is American. Maybe a tiny bit more.

        Still, they produce a lot of cars in Sweden, are traded on the Swedish stock market and are headquarered in Göteborg.

        Honestly, I think they’re doing better now than they were under Ford, but obviously they’ll never match the quality of Volvo’s old RWD bricks.