Notice how you say “civic targets” to imply bombing civillians like we and our allies do, when what you’re actually talking about is striking power stations? I know that’s what you actually mean, because if you or anyone in the capitalist propaganda sphere had evidence of “daily russian bombardment” of civillians, we would never hear the end of it. This is a weak deflection with no weight behind it.
Since you definitely truly care about human life, what do you think about the US-backed nazi junta’s 8 years of bombings and terror raids targeted specifically at civillians? Their own people too, which I hear is apparently extra evil in the eyes of liberals who weigh morality by the fiction of statehood. Seems like the kind of thing that should have a more self-aware person clamoring for regime change there, too. But then, you’re literally lying for nazis right now. There’s no bar too low for you to ooze under.
Mate there’s a daily stream of bombed out housing blocks, supermarkets, hospitals and markets. Just do a fast search, or check r/Ukraine if you need to.
Tell me, why would >>Russian citizens<< stay in Donbas under this constant bombardment if they could anytime move say 50km and be out of range of anything Ukraine had untill 2-3 years ago? They heroically die for motherlands propaganda machine or their country not only wouldent protect nor would allow them to move?
People in Gaza figured out if the Israeli genocidal state is bombing them it makes sense to run. But there’s not much territory there to hide. Russia on the other hand does seem to have… a bit more to get out of range why not offer it at least to the willing? Why no satellite evidence, especially compared to how Bakhmut or Mauriopol looked after a few months of Russian operations? You ever attempt to reality check what you believe, even if its with the best intentions?
These were Ukrainian citizens who spoke Russian and lived in Ukraine all their lives, and before that the USSR. Why wouldn’t they move? Because their grandparents fought the demons from the west and so will they, because they are brave and don’t just accept ethnic cleansing but fight back.
Every generation a new batch of swastika wearing fascist westerners invade Russia, you don’t think they are ready for your shit?
All I’m saying is if they were bombed, they could easily escape it, or Russia could easily destroy to guns used, since Ukr didn’t have any serious long range artillery until recently. So either Russia was unwilling, or the people did not feel threatened or something is off here.
There are millions of Ukrainian citizens who speak Russian and were persecuted. You are saying “why didn’t Russia just accept massive population transfers and millions of refugees”? Ukraine was attempting ethnic cleansing of its own citizens. Why should this be accepted, an illegitimate coup government driving millions from their homes?
You think it’s fine because you are a Russophobic fascist as I have said. You don’t care about people if they speak Russian you think they deserve to die of be driven from their homes, you have the same attitude Americans do about Palestinians.
To a certain degree. Did Ukr fire shots into Donbas? I’d be surprised if it didn’t. Was it a genocidal constant barrage that Rus propaganda made you believe it was? There would be clear evidence of that, and you people have none and go into vatnik screeching anyone asks for it. And if it was… again why wouldn’t the Russian state just relocate these people?
I don’t know if you get it but the brain-dead mantra about supposed shelling sounds like a joke to everyone outside you bubble, so much it doesn’t make sense.
BTW please refrain from attempting to insult me. For one - it only makes you look like you can’t hold an argument, and two I’ve no respect for you as a person at the moment anyway, so it’s as touching as a drunk hobos mumblings and a waste of everyone’s time.
Oh no just dont report me to the authorities, please!
lold. Fucken misserable bootlickers. Why cant you just come up with clear visual evidence? Come on, 10 years of destruction and genocide over artillery, that has to leave a massive mark like you know the sort of these images of Marinka:
As destroyed by Russia. So if this stuff documented and possible to show is not genocide of Ukrainians, but there was a genocide of… russian-speaking Ukrainians in one particular area - whers the proof?
Notice how you say “civic targets” to imply bombing civillians like we and our allies do, when what you’re actually talking about is striking power stations? I know that’s what you actually mean, because if you or anyone in the capitalist propaganda sphere had evidence of “daily russian bombardment” of civillians, we would never hear the end of it. This is a weak deflection with no weight behind it.
Since you definitely truly care about human life, what do you think about the US-backed nazi junta’s 8 years of bombings and terror raids targeted specifically at civillians? Their own people too, which I hear is apparently extra evil in the eyes of liberals who weigh morality by the fiction of statehood. Seems like the kind of thing that should have a more self-aware person clamoring for regime change there, too. But then, you’re literally lying for nazis right now. There’s no bar too low for you to ooze under.
Mate there’s a daily stream of bombed out housing blocks, supermarkets, hospitals and markets. Just do a fast search, or check r/Ukraine if you need to.
You’re saying things a decade ago didn’t happen because there’s damage from things happening now
That’s very stupid
Tell me, why would >>Russian citizens<< stay in Donbas under this constant bombardment if they could anytime move say 50km and be out of range of anything Ukraine had untill 2-3 years ago? They heroically die for motherlands propaganda machine or their country not only wouldent protect nor would allow them to move?
People in Gaza figured out if the Israeli genocidal state is bombing them it makes sense to run. But there’s not much territory there to hide. Russia on the other hand does seem to have… a bit more to get out of range why not offer it at least to the willing? Why no satellite evidence, especially compared to how Bakhmut or Mauriopol looked after a few months of Russian operations? You ever attempt to reality check what you believe, even if its with the best intentions?
These were Ukrainian citizens who spoke Russian and lived in Ukraine all their lives, and before that the USSR. Why wouldn’t they move? Because their grandparents fought the demons from the west and so will they, because they are brave and don’t just accept ethnic cleansing but fight back.
Every generation a new batch of swastika wearing fascist westerners invade Russia, you don’t think they are ready for your shit?
Threatening people to move prior to terror-bombing is some next-level
right here.
All I’m saying is if they were bombed, they could easily escape it, or Russia could easily destroy to guns used, since Ukr didn’t have any serious long range artillery until recently. So either Russia was unwilling, or the people did not feel threatened or something is off here.
There are millions of Ukrainian citizens who speak Russian and were persecuted. You are saying “why didn’t Russia just accept massive population transfers and millions of refugees”? Ukraine was attempting ethnic cleansing of its own citizens. Why should this be accepted, an illegitimate coup government driving millions from their homes?
You think it’s fine because you are a Russophobic fascist as I have said. You don’t care about people if they speak Russian you think they deserve to die of be driven from their homes, you have the same attitude Americans do about Palestinians.
What I’m getting from your disjointed screed is that you’re implying that the Donbas shelling is a hoax. You nazi pieces if shit will say anything
To a certain degree. Did Ukr fire shots into Donbas? I’d be surprised if it didn’t. Was it a genocidal constant barrage that Rus propaganda made you believe it was? There would be clear evidence of that, and you people have none and go into vatnik screeching anyone asks for it. And if it was… again why wouldn’t the Russian state just relocate these people?
I don’t know if you get it but the brain-dead mantra about supposed shelling sounds like a joke to everyone outside you bubble, so much it doesn’t make sense.
BTW please refrain from attempting to insult me. For one - it only makes you look like you can’t hold an argument, and two I’ve no respect for you as a person at the moment anyway, so it’s as touching as a drunk hobos mumblings and a waste of everyone’s time.
Ah, so the “well known antifa organizer” is doing a “like homeless people, I do not respect you as a human being” thing. Lovely.
Lmao Polish and German Antifa at this point should just rebrand to “fa”
Id mostly associate that with hobos as in crusty punks from US, but generally meant a rambling drunk. Feel free to strawman whatever you want ofc.
Sure you did.
your passive chauvinism drips off you, we can all smell it
Coulda stopped typing there my guy
Oh no just dont report me to the authorities, please!
lold. Fucken misserable bootlickers. Why cant you just come up with clear visual evidence? Come on, 10 years of destruction and genocide over artillery, that has to leave a massive mark like you know the sort of these images of Marinka:
As destroyed by Russia. So if this stuff documented and possible to show is not genocide of Ukrainians, but there was a genocide of… russian-speaking Ukrainians in one particular area - whers the proof?
There is no way you are actually this ignorant, so you’re clearly just full of shit.