Thank you for that, I appreciate it. I see where you’re coming from.
From my perspective, rejecting campism starts at home. With rejecting the bad actor camp that, if you don’t actively reject it, can be seen as a self-serving bias.
An American saying Russia bad, which it clearly is, means far, far less than an American saying America bad, or a Russian saying Russia bad, because if you speak against another country, it’s easy to be perceived as just being a loyal tribalist.
It’s more powerful to reject the camp you’ll feel the consequences of than to more loudly attack another bad actor or actors, as that can easily be seen as campism.
I’m glad we could have a reasonable conversation about this.
As to your point about rejecting campism starts at home, I think we’re in partial agreement. It is important to reject one’s own ‘camp’, as failing to do so is… well, literally just campism. And we ‘in’ a certain camp are often better poised to examine and denounce certain aspects of our own camps, and insofar as we are gifted with that perspective, we have a very strong and serious moral duty to do so.
I’m just wary of the idea that we all ‘end up’ with the duty to denounce our own camp extra hard, rather than the duty to police ourselves and ensure that the moral failings of our own ‘camp’ don’t escape our notice or our condemnation. We can’t control whether others’ condemnations are correct in target or intensity; only our own.
Thank you for that, I appreciate it. I see where you’re coming from.
From my perspective, rejecting campism starts at home. With rejecting the bad actor camp that, if you don’t actively reject it, can be seen as a self-serving bias.
An American saying Russia bad, which it clearly is, means far, far less than an American saying America bad, or a Russian saying Russia bad, because if you speak against another country, it’s easy to be perceived as just being a loyal tribalist.
It’s more powerful to reject the camp you’ll feel the consequences of than to more loudly attack another bad actor or actors, as that can easily be seen as campism.
I’m glad we could have a reasonable conversation about this.
As to your point about rejecting campism starts at home, I think we’re in partial agreement. It is important to reject one’s own ‘camp’, as failing to do so is… well, literally just campism. And we ‘in’ a certain camp are often better poised to examine and denounce certain aspects of our own camps, and insofar as we are gifted with that perspective, we have a very strong and serious moral duty to do so.
I’m just wary of the idea that we all ‘end up’ with the duty to denounce our own camp extra hard, rather than the duty to police ourselves and ensure that the moral failings of our own ‘camp’ don’t escape our notice or our condemnation. We can’t control whether others’ condemnations are correct in target or intensity; only our own.