I mean, maybe, if you’re arguing we inflitrate the DSA, but as soon as they start opposing all this and making compromises you’ve gotta break up with them. I think we’re well past the point of breaking up with them. When they don’t have solidarity with anti-imperialists in the global South, that’s when their actual goals become irreconcilable with a communist movement.
Organizing a communist party using mutual aid, propaganda, labor strikes eventually, and any other viable methods, never conceding an inch of power to the bourgeois government and growing popular support and dual power by any means necessary, patiently, only taking illegal or violent action when the gains exceed the members arrested or killed. Accept that you have a legitimate chance to get killed or imprisoned by the police.
Once the foundation for an armed revolution is created wait until there is a spontaneous explosion of some kind (like the riots in France rn, but larger) and seize the moment to start engaging in actual warfare against the state.
Prepare for a drawn-out civil war, horrific beyond the likes of which you’ve ever thought possible to witness, that kills probably over 400,000 people. Also, prepare for the side you’re fighting to receive substantial imperialist military aid or outright foreign military reinforcements.
At the end of it, if you succeed, then humanity gains one precious chance at never repeating all of this stuff again.
That’s roughly what it’ll look like.
Do you think we just support stuff because of its socialistness? Should we not support Iran against the US just because they aren’t socialist? Or Hezbollah, or Hamas? None of those are socialist, yet, I would hope you support them against Israel.
Supporting Ukraine and cheering on the destruction of Russian infrastructure kinda reminds of something like supporting the US-led liberation of Kuwait and cheering on the destruction of Iraq.
I’m fine with someone having a negative opinion of China so long as they don’t use that as a purity test and demand everyone else denounce China, calling people “fascists” or “tankies” and refusing to work with them otherwise.
There are people who think China is actively imperialist instead of a semi periphery country and is as bad as the US and Western Europe, or even that they’re worse, and that China deserves to be balkanized and beaten down. Those people are not leftists, they are Western chauvinists.
Then there are people who may have a negative opinion on China, but will defend China against imperialist extraction and aggression. Those people are leftists that don’t like China.
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The DSA is the compromise with the genocidal rapist pedophiles that exists so that nobody will do anything too drastic about the situation, so it can go on and on without change.
Decreptance ⚰️☠️: “He’s a poor old man. Stop bothering him about Bad-Thing!”
Capitalism has now divided the world into places with different functions:
They are the countries whose economies are focused on raw resource extraction like mining and agriculture. These places are usually very poor as all investment coming abroad from international finance goes towards increasing the output of ore, crude oil, coffee, palm oil, etc. A good example from the beginning of Neocolonialism (Kwame Nkrumah) is of Ghana tripling its cacao production over the span of 10 years, but the actual net income from total cacao exports fell slightly. The global system of capitalism via monopoly power forces these countries to underprice their exports and forces them to overpay on imports and on the interest payments from loans they must get from the banks of rich countries like the EU or US. Africa and the Middle East, some parts of South America and Asia would be in the imperial periphery. They only consume close to the bare necessity required to maintain the workforce required for resource extraction.
There are the countries whose economies process those raw resources into consumer goods. This group has become increasingly distinct over time as factories have moved out of the US and Europe into Asia and Central and South America. Life is sometimes better here and there is more consumption usually.
And the one people are talking about and most people on here are probably from…
The countries whose economies are focused on consumption, finance, and IPs (or other forms of products only profitable because of rent). Almost all jobs fall into the categories of…
Sales and retail, transportation, finance, creating IPs such as proprietary software, technology patents, or entertainment, and the maintenance of infrastructure. That’s it, pretty much. It makes sense why nobody wants to work, almost all of them aren’t contributing anything that seems helpful minus a few exceptions.
Their biggest exports are loans, IPs (if those could even be said to be exports), and weapons.
Alienation is the worst in these countries as every aspect of life is designed to make people consume as much as possible. Alienation is far more psychologically damaging than exploitation which leads to stuff like South Korea having a higher suicide rate than Sudan. Basically all of them are experiencing an ever worsening loneliness and mental health crisis. It’s normal now that every person you know has a mood disorder.
Also leftists have a far harder time getting anything done in these countries because a lot of the working class are basically bought off and apathy is like the dominant ideology. Also, what means of production is anyone gonna seize? The Coca-Cola bottling factory? The Walmart grocery stores?
“I can’t help Israel.” Well, that’s good.
And everyone dies.
Unlike real life where you’re unable to help anyone.
“Overtly negative on anything from the West” lol.
The DSA is mostly silent on Iran, probably negative, holding the lib position of the war being bad for Amerikkka, has opposed direct action in support of Palestine, claims Cuba is a dictatorship, made questionable remarks on Venezuela at a time when the US was terrorizing the people there, and it seems they support the continuation of the Russo-Ukrainian war.
Let’s not forget the popular candidates: Mamdani, who has done nothing of substance to fight against American imperialism (saying things doesn’t count if you do otherwise), Graham Planter (who wasn’t a member but rallied more support in the party than actual members), a mercenary for Blackwater (enough said, Christ, that alone makes them at least as bad as Democrats, even the most liberals thought supporting a mercenary who brags about raping and pillaging was in poor taste), and Abdul El-Sayad, literally bourgeois, owns property in the UAE (a country guilty of genocide in Sudan greater in scale than what has happened in Palestine) and says he explicitly supports capitalism. These are your greatest fighters?
Also they are explicitly anti-communist, so its more like that they’ll block movement left and act as a controlled opposition to absorb would be communists and make sure that the farthest left conceivable position in the US are social democrats like them.
So, no, voting for them now does nothing and if it did, it’d actually be against your interests if you want actual socialism in the US and not social democracy subsidized by imperialism. At one point I did think the DSA might be okay, it clearly wasn’t and I was wrong. Graham Platner was the fucking last straw for me and the Demokkkratikkk $$ociali$$t$$ of Amerikkka, it should have been earlier, and then they only kept piling the straw higher.