DerGottesknecht

You’re talking about Germany? The final nuclear shutdown law came from CDU/FDP. And the problem with dispatch energy comes mainly from conservatives against power lines

And thats wrong?

It works in the UK https://jech.bmj.com/content/78/9/578

Pretty fuckin insulting to tell me my father’s degree doesn’t matter.

To this discussion. Also, as you probably don’t want to doxx yourself you can’t cite him, i can’t know if you’re lying, so it’s not relevant until you link a paper or something of his on this topic.

That initial article you posted which again has ZERO FUCKING SOURCES has been posted on multiple history subreddits as well as a few times on other more history specific forums/sites.

And the other sources are discredited by reddit too?

Also WW2 was/is a pretty fucking important time in the world history so it gets a lot of coverage. Especially what the Germans were doing leading up to the start of the war as it’s kinda relevant to how the whole thing happened in the first place.

So it should be easy for you to cite sources which confirm that the Autobahn construction caused a major boost to the german economy comparable to the weapons industry.

The majority of Germans at the time didn’t want to finish the Autobahn as it was seen as a waste of time and resources. Hitler was the one that saw the potential and pushed to make it happen.

Hitler appropriated already existing plans. Cite sources if you want me to believe this.

I came into a conversation where you were spreading myths and propaganda without sources but with a conviction. I assumed you just didn’t know and send you the first article which google showed. I added further links to sources, which is more than you did.

Good people that helped many have also done bad things. Bad people who were evil have also done good things. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Show me where I disputed this claim. I also think its true, but your examples are trash.

I can admit that hitler did some good stuff, but the autobahns are not the example for it. Maybe animal protection laws, speed limits near schools and most of all, he’s sabotaged the german war effort and was the guy to kill Hitler.

So get off your high horse and ask your dad for some sources.

Your fathers degree doesn’t matter if he didn’t researched this topic, world history is pretty big abd you can’t be an expert in everything.

Plus that article has been posted to several history forums over the last ~10+ish years as best I can tell and not once has it included sources or been taken seriously by any of the historians that read it.

Proof or it didn’t happen. 4chan doesn’t count as historical forum.

One of the major contributors was his insistence on building the highway/Autobahn.

This was your Sentence. And it is proven false.

I never said they didn’t build lots of autobahn, but it was neither their idea nor did it cause the german the economic economy to rebound. That were mainly jobs in weaüon manufacturing.

You’ve then linked a German website and a German Wikipedia page. I am not fluent in German so I can’t read them, but they are both German hosted so I suspect some modern German biases probably apply. It would behoove any and all Germans to forever distance themselves from Hitler whenever possible but I also see that extending past reality with people trying rewrite history such as yourself.

You know you can translate websites with google or deepl to do a cursory check? Here, i did the work for you and found you an english source. But ultimately, just fuck off for your general dismissal of german historians and their research. You have no fucking clue, but think you know better. Fucking delusional. If there are any systemic biases there should be at least one academic paper talking about that…

I don’t know why you have to defend hitler this much, even in face of several linked sources with only your dad as your witness, but it’s really infuriating.

What historians called this article nazi smear?

This is really not contentious in Germany, there is a consensus amongst historians and the third reich is well researched. So I don’t know how you can close your eyes to the facts.

If you want more sources with sources:

https://www.bpb.de/themen/antisemitismus/dossier-antisemitismus/504205/autobahn/

Schulz, Eckhardt / Gruber, Erhard: Mythos Reichsautobahn. Bau und Inszenierung der “Straßen des Führers” 1933–1941, Berlin 1996.

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsautobahn#Mythen_und_Motive

Kiran Klaus Patel: „Soldaten der Arbeit“. Arbeitsdienste in Deutschland und den USA 1933–1945. Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht

Gotcha.

Now please edit your primary comment to not distribute nazi propaganda. Dankeschön.

Please stop the shit with the Autobahn. Thats straight up Nazi propaganda.

https://www.dw.com/de/deutscher-mythos-adolf-hitler-und-die-autobahn/audio-16149056

TLDR: -First Autobahn was built before Hitler by Adenauer. -Nazis decried it as jewish project. -Changed opinion and propagandad about 600.000 jobs. -Only 120.000 jobs were created and the conditions were really bad for the workers. Hunger, sickness, death. -Striking workers were put in the KZ.

• Unemployment was resolved by the rearming before WWII

At least Thyssen Krupp fucked it up themselves with a botched invest in (south)american factories, where they lost more than their current market value. And thats symptomatic for the current situation if you ask me, most of these companies were greedy and stupid and now the past comes due.