A mild copyright violation based on a system designed around the constant distribution of copies of things is NOT a parable about sexual violence, people.

I feel like this extremely insensitive rape take is the fediverse’s version of the Godwin Law.

Some people don’t even have puffin friends.

Which is why the robot voice actors should unionize. It’s a crime that human voice actors have been stealing their jobs for so long!

The fediverse has a built-in search engine?

I can only comment on my experience searching for communities in lemmy and people to follow on mastadon, but in both cases I am not sure I’d say “works quite well” would describe my experience.

But also that’s not what I think OP was talking about.

They want a search engine for a random fact like google. It’s been long true that you need to add “reddit” to the end of any google search to find the info you needed.

It’d be nice to have a fediverse alternative.

The link seemed to work for me from lemmy. I see three posts there when I click it at least.

Plus back before the woke liberal agenda took over the media he was always talking about “boners” which I can relate to.

It’s the set of background conditions and events leading up to the current story, but that’s not important right now.

Those well-meaning-but-terrible-in-practice consumer protection laws are probably a good indicator of why the EU isn’t a hub of technological innovation.

They’re at least a symptom of the same underlying outlook on the industry.

I don’t know the answer but they pointed this out further in the press release:

However, it’s also important for us that Mastodon is one of the few, if not the only social media platform that operates out of the EU, and we would like to keep it that way.

I’d assume that this is for a reason, too. If it were advantageous to run your company out of the EU people would probably do so sometimes.

You are describing the current situation in the fediverse, not a problem caused by the idea proposed.

Allowing for federated identity would also imply allowing migration of identity, which wholly prevents what you just described.

The current system is guaranteed to have larger instances where people won’t want to leave because doing so abandons your identity.

If I could move around the fediverse freely I would do so, but that is not a feature that is supported so I stick to the largest instance which happens to be the one I chose. I am not unique in this. Obviously, or this instance wouldn’t be so large.

Offering federated identity is only a better situation than today.

Imagine if login was a federated feature in lemmy.

What this would mean is that I could go to lemmy.ml and login using my lemmy.world account credentials and people from lemmy.ml could go to lemmy.world and log in using theirs.

Neither could go to beehaw and login because it does not federate with the two of them.

In this world I could create an identity on lemmy.world and a separate identity on lemmy.ml if I wanted to.

Now imagine if I could login with my lemmy.world account on a non lemmy platform that lemmy.world federates with.

There’s nothing centralized about this, and it is exactly in the spirit of everything else in the fediverse. To login on beehaw I would have to create an identity on beehaw or someone they federate with.

What you seem to be against is forcing you to have only one login. That does go against the model we are talking about.

And it isn’t what’s being suggested.

Nothing about this idea implies centralization. There is no reason identity has to be tied to the platform using the identity and no reason why there needs to be a central identity store.

In fact, right now my identity IS centralized to lemmy.world and I have no control over that.

Your solution to create as many identities as you want is great for avoiding having one identity, but not an example of decentralized identity.

I would like to be able to have multiple, decentralized, identities.

Yeah, it’s the interest rate issue across the whole tech industry.

That’s all fair. I can see what you meant after reading it, so maybe it’s more of a me thing than one you have to consider in any depth. I know I have issues around feeling heard that aren’t the general. And people who don’t like being called out for cis-typical behaviors tend to be various forms of awful people that don’t really need to be included.

Anyway, thank you for the conversation and the blog posts. I’m using Hotspot Shield as a vpn, if that helps and looking at your site through Safari on my iPhone.

Thank you for the thoughtful response here.

If it helps, I feel like “Be an ally if you’re cis and joining the conversation” might fit what you’re saying and wouldn’t have bristled me. But I recognize that it isn’t your responsibility to manage the emotions of people who have unquestioned privilege.

I also hope this isn’t a weird question but I noticed that I have to turn my vpn off to see your site. Is that intentional?

On the other stuff, I love that you’re talking about the importance of account migration, and I like the idea of the concentric federation.

There’s a bit more in there about scalability. So it’s nice to see your thoughts around it. I was thinking that the opt-in process which messages you for approval was the closest to scalable from the former article, because it allows everyone the opportunity to opt in without requiring hidden knowledge. But it could also feel like some sort of fishing attempt to get a message asking for consent.

So I guess finding a way to build opt-in into the protocol in some way would be the most scalable option in the long term. However that could work.

I don’t think you added anything new to the argument and their linked source addressed it from a technical and ethical perspective.

Personally, I don’t think that it’s reasonable when someone asks you to not do something for you to do that thing directly to them.

You’ve done that here. Whether or not you think you’re bringing up good points, it’s still pretty rude.

Anyway, you’re right that this isn’t about points. I started off trying to give you benefit of the doubt that you were respectfully responding to the article and just missed what they had said, but then you doubled down and triple downed.

I understand the need to try to voice concerns, and so I understand why you’re continuing to push.

You are trying to fill in sections of colors that are touching, either in a straight line or a grid of blocks. The numbers are how many blocks are filled by that line or grid for that color.

It ends up being a mostly mindless but relaxing game.

DON’T say the things that developers who ignore consent typically say

That’s likely to increase the pushback.  If that’s your goal, great, go for it!  If not, though, it’s best to avoid stuff like this.

• “Posting publicly gives implied consent to use the data”

I don’t inherently agree with the article’s ask, but you’ve literally only proven its point by stating, verbatim, one of their “please stop making us retread these tired arguments over and over” points.

OP links to a Mastodon thread from a user who breaks down the technical limitations of ActivityPub and proposes how the situation can be improved. Maybe read that.

Also, if you think that these are reasonable suggestions, then perhaps ignoring them directly isn’t the best way to engage with this article?

Read the article, I didn’t write it.

“Implicit consent” is another one they call out directly.

The article addresses this directly in the section on things to not say, though:

ActivityPub does indeed  “makes assumptions that are fundamentally opposed to the kinds of protections that people seem to be seeking.” But in a discussion about whether or not to get consent, even the ones that are true the miss the point – just because ActivityPub leaves open possibilities for you to do something without getting consent, that’s not the only option.