The AI boom is screwing over Gen Z | ChatGPT is commandeering the mundane tasks that young employees have relied on to advance their careers.::ChatGPT is commandeering the tasks that young employees rely on to advance their careers. That’s going to crush Gen Z’s career path.

  • Dnn@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Bullshit. Learn how to train new hires to do useful work instead of mundane bloat.

    • TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      They don’t want to train new hires to begin with. A lot of work that new hires relied on to get a foothold on a job is bloat and chores that nobody wants to do. Because they aren’t trusted to take on more responsibility than that yet.

      Arguably whole industries exist around work that isn’t strictly necessary. Does anyone feel like telemarketing is work that is truly necessary for society? But it provides employment to a lot of people. There’s much that will need to change for us to dismiss these roles entirely, but people need to eat every day.

      • CoderKat@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        The “not willing to train” thing is one of the biggest problems IMO. But also not a new one. It’s rampant in my field of software dev.

        Most people coming out of university aren’t very qualified. Most have no understanding of how to actually program real world software, because they’ve only ever done university classes where their environments are usually nice and easy (possibly already setup), projects are super tiny, they can actually read all the code in the project (you cannot do that in real projects – there’s far too much code), and usually problems are kept minimal with no red herrings, unclear legacy code, etc.

        Needless to say, most new grads just aren’t that good at programming in a real project. Everyone in the field knows this. As a result, many companies don’t hire new grads. Their advertised “entry level” position is actually more of a mid level position because they don’t want to deal with this painful training period (which takes a lot of their senior devs time!). But it ends up making the field painful to enter. Reddit would constantly have threads from people lamenting that the field must be dying and every time it’s some new grad or junior. IMO it’s because they face this extra barrier. By comparison, senior devs will get daily emails from recruiters asking if they want a job.

        It’s very unsustainable.

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      1 year ago

      100% if an AI can do the job just as well (or better) then there’s no reason we should be making a person do it.

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        Part of the problem with AI is that it requires significant skill to understand where AI goes wrong.

        As a basic example, get a language model like ChatGPT to edit writing. It can go very wrong, removing the wrong words, changing the tone, and making mistakes that an unlearned person does not understand. I’ve had foreign students use AI to write letters or responses and often the tone is all off. That’s one thing but the student doesn’t understand that they’ve written a weird letter. Same goes with grammar checking.

        This sets up a dangerous scenario where, to diagnose the results, you need to already have a deep understanding. This is in contrast to non-AI language checkers that are simpler to understand.

        Moreover as you can imagine the danger is that the people who are making decisions about hiring and restructuring may not understand this issue.

        • exbot@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          The good news is this means many of the jobs AI is “taking” will probably come back when people realize it isn’t actually as good as the hype implied

          • astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz
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            1 year ago

            Not quite. It’s more that a job that once had 5-10 people and perhaps an “expert” supervisor will just be whittled down to the expert. Similarly, factories used to employ hundreds and a handful of supervisors to produce a widget. Now, they can employ a couple of supervisors and a handful of robot technicians to produce more widgets.

            • MurrayL@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              The problem is, where do those experts come from? Expertise is earned through experience, and if all the entry-level jobs go away then eventually you’ll run out of experts.

              • biddy@feddit.nl
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                1 year ago

                Education. If education was free this wouldn’t be a problem, you could take a few more years at university to gain that experience instead of working in a junior role.

                This is the problem with capitalism, if you take too much without giving back, eventually there’s nothing left to take.

                  • biddy@feddit.nl
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                    1 year ago

                    You definitely don’t get experts from unemployed people, or from people working to the bone doing menial labor for minimum wage.

                    Education is a broad term, that could include apprenticeships where you do get real work experience. And education would have to change a lot in all areas. The point is, the government can support people to gain that experience, the problem is that right now it isn’t. It’s common to exit just a bachelors degree with crippling amounts of debt.