I remember when anti-work meant anti-work. As in, fewer jobs, more free time, against the notion of labor as an entire thing. Our entire species retiring.
Honestly, I’m glad work reform is a separate thing now, because I don’t want to reform work. I want to eliminate it.
Unfortunately much of the world feels entitled to the labor of others and refuses to acknowledge the mental gymnastics we accept as a society.
One has to look no further than the way we treat food service employees. People demand to be served. They feel they are entitled to their basic human needs being serviced while blaming those servicing them for being under valued.
It’s sick and twisted; our society is mentally ill.
I remember when anti-work meant anti-work. As in, fewer jobs, more free time, against the notion of labor as an entire thing. Our entire species retiring.
Unfortunately most people only remember back to the explosion in subscribers that preceded the Fox “interview” by 6-9 months. During which time there was a marked uptick in bad faith arguments pushing what eventually backboned the work reform sub. The (likely paid) Fox appearance was just the diarrhea drizzle on the shit sundae. And then it was obvious to all that the entire thing was comprised of lazy drooling idiots. Narrative captured, mission complete.
I’ve had this argument too many times with newcomers to antiwork that I’m not going to do it again with you. But ask yourself this: If people so desperately want to work, why do they dream about winning the lottery so they don’t have to? Why do they save up their entire lives to enjoy their golden years not working?
Stop looking at this from the bottom of a 6,000 year old hole that tells you that you need to justify your existence to your superiors.
I said people want to work. I explicitly said that the problem is employment, which is not the same thing as work, so I don’t know what “my superiors” has to do with this.
Work can look like a lot of different things. Cooking, gardening, producing art, building things, leading people, building or supporting communities. Even training in and playing sports is “work”. (There’s ridiculous amounts of money there in the world of sports, and athletes are compensated for their time, including that spent training, so it’s really not that strange when you think about it)
Humans are built to enjoy feeling productive.
How would you spend your retirement? Many people re-enter the workforce. Many people volunteer their time to various organizations.
Even if your idea of a perfect retirement involves endless consumption of entertainment, I’d argue that a lot of entertainment effectively simulates various kinds of work. Video games are a prime example.
Sounds like justifications for the Protestant work ethic that had to be socialized into us at torture-point. Stop trying to keep your cogs. “The chattel, they yearn for the menial factory line! They yearn for the cotton gin! They ache for feeling like they produced something!” They could make art, they could spin your culture; but we both know that’s not what you’re talking about.
I remember when anti-work meant anti-work. As in, fewer jobs, more free time, against the notion of labor as an entire thing. Our entire species retiring.
Honestly, I’m glad work reform is a separate thing now, because I don’t want to reform work. I want to eliminate it.
Unfortunately much of the world feels entitled to the labor of others and refuses to acknowledge the mental gymnastics we accept as a society.
One has to look no further than the way we treat food service employees. People demand to be served. They feel they are entitled to their basic human needs being serviced while blaming those servicing them for being under valued.
It’s sick and twisted; our society is mentally ill.
Unfortunately most people only remember back to the explosion in subscribers that preceded the Fox “interview” by 6-9 months. During which time there was a marked uptick in bad faith arguments pushing what eventually backboned the work reform sub. The (likely paid) Fox appearance was just the diarrhea drizzle on the shit sundae. And then it was obvious to all that the entire thing was comprised of lazy drooling idiots. Narrative captured, mission complete.
Eliminating work wouldn’t actually be enjoyable.
We just need to reform society so that people aren’t required to be employed to survive.
Humans inherently like to work and be productive. The problem isn’t working, it’s employment under shitty companies.
I’ve had this argument too many times with newcomers to antiwork that I’m not going to do it again with you. But ask yourself this: If people so desperately want to work, why do they dream about winning the lottery so they don’t have to? Why do they save up their entire lives to enjoy their golden years not working?
Stop looking at this from the bottom of a 6,000 year old hole that tells you that you need to justify your existence to your superiors.
I said people want to work. I explicitly said that the problem is employment, which is not the same thing as work, so I don’t know what “my superiors” has to do with this.
Work can look like a lot of different things. Cooking, gardening, producing art, building things, leading people, building or supporting communities. Even training in and playing sports is “work”. (There’s ridiculous amounts of money there in the world of sports, and athletes are compensated for their time, including that spent training, so it’s really not that strange when you think about it)
Humans are built to enjoy feeling productive.
How would you spend your retirement? Many people re-enter the workforce. Many people volunteer their time to various organizations.
Even if your idea of a perfect retirement involves endless consumption of entertainment, I’d argue that a lot of entertainment effectively simulates various kinds of work. Video games are a prime example.
Sounds like justifications for the Protestant work ethic that had to be socialized into us at torture-point. Stop trying to keep your cogs. “The chattel, they yearn for the menial factory line! They yearn for the cotton gin! They ache for feeling like they produced something!” They could make art, they could spin your culture; but we both know that’s not what you’re talking about.
You totally didn’t read the first sentence
Yeah, because you didn’t understand what I said.