• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Americans will ingest American Propaganda from an American billionaire backed by American industry in pursuit of American foreign policy and get called “Dupes of an Evil Foreign Insurgency” by their next-door neighbors who have been ingesting slightly different American Propaganda.

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        Don’t be so hasty!

        We love propaganda from ANY source so long as it gives us that sweet xenophobic dopamine hit!

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          One of the bigger jokes of the whole “Russian Propaganda!” line has been how much modern Russian Propaganda is coming out of the same far-right white nationalist clearinghouses as the OG American shit. FFS, we’ve had everyone from Steve Bannon to Ross Douthet to Rod Dreher piling into Eastern Europe to saturate their media with the most dumb-baby US-grade bullshit. And then it’s come right back around again, like the distant echo of a particularly wet fart.

          What people scream about from back in 2016, or the Tim Poole shit as recently as 2024, is perfectly interchangeable with your standard issue Rush Limbaugh / Ben Shapiro western chauvinism going back to the 1960s.

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        You’re right. Putin’s definitely not in bed with multiple us presidents and probably never actually killed anyone. Not the smol ex-KGBean, wtf are you talking about?

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          Putin’s definitely not in bed with multiple us presidents

          Why do I get an earful about Putin every five minutes, but not one word about Robert Mercer or Ann Getty?

          FFS, Mohammad bin Salmon and Benjamin Netanyahu have better claim to being “in bed” with the last half-dozen Presidents. We don’t have a line of videos of US presidents bowing in front of a Russian President or abasing themselves in front of Saint Basil’s Cathedral.

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            Probably because you jumped up to defend the motherland from the really mildest criticism but that’s your life not mine chief.

            I’m not really here to shill for any of those wholesome chunguses but Dubya had some amazing stuff to say about the guy if you want to play waddabouts. Or maybe we could just act cool any time someone says something shitty about a government? Maybe it’s not all a psyop some of the time?

            ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯

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              Dubya had some amazing stuff to say about the guy if you want to play waddabouts.

              Much like Reagan and Saddam Hussein. They were friends until they weren’t

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                Oh good, yeah seems like a very similar trajectory to Saddam 🙄 I’m sure palling around with DJT in the back of a presidential vehicle was the moment Russia forever transitioned to brave resistance fighters against US imperialism and strong LGBTQ allies.

                Look Weevil I generally enjoy your takes but this is just such a dumb hill to die on. You don’t even get 社会信用体系 for simping for Russia on the internet, you don’t even need it. If you’re straight you can just move there. We do it all the time. Diving in front of stray bullets for any government in a comment section is just kind of sad

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                  If you’re straight you can just move there.

                  There’s this fascination, online, with selling your house and your car and quitting your job and converting your life savings to a new currency and kissing your parents goodbye so you can relocate to a country you once said “This place isn’t as bad as the trolls on the internet said it was” to… prove a point?

                  I’ll never understand the urge. But apparently all of you people have done it and now you just post from somewhere in Scandinavia or Argentina or Qatar, encouraging other people to do the same.

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                    Oh is that what you think I was recommending? That you move to Russia? You’re right, I probably buried my meaning there a little deep. Funny though that through all this you gathered that despite my shit talk I’ve managed to leave the states and was actually trying to sell you on going to Russia. Obviously in condescending like I did I lost you and that’s on me. My bad.