• clearleaf@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    That’s just the same thing in more paragraphs. Unless you want to stop the contribution of money and weapons to Ukraine you are in support of the war. Nowhere did I say that’s a bad thing by the way, I just like things to be accurate and I’ve been watching the meaning of “anti war” turn into a meaningless label that people feel like they need to put on themselves to be a good person.

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      1 year ago

      If you like accuracy, you must be furious at yourself.

      You’re being deliberately vague, disingenuous and narrow-minded.

      You’re arguing for any country that is illegally invaded by a superior military force to just give up their country.

      Placation is not the way to stop wars, promoting illegal invasion and annexation actively causes more wars. So does not doing anything.

      Russia already illegally invaded and stole territory in 2014 and is now doing it again because nobody stopped them.

      You’re arguing that we should just let any country invade and steal territory.

      You are wrong fundamentally and on the specifics.

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        1 year ago

        If you support a war then you support a war and it sounds like you do support the Ukraine war. Do you want your country to give money, weapons, and people (aka support) to Ukraine or do you not?

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          You appear to have a very over-simplified view here. Supporting a country that is being invaded is not the same as supporting the war itself. Supporting a war specifically implies someone supports the aggressing country and their goals. Supporting Ukraine does not mean someone also supports Russia invading Ukraine.

          Acting like anyone who thinks countries should be allowed to defend themselves from invaders is pro-war is a truly terrible take.

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          1 year ago

          Your flawed argument is that the soldiers fighting Nazis were pro-war. No, they were anti illegal genocide, invasion and annexation.

          On the separate narrow note you’re trying to equivocate with false narratives only you are putting forth, I personally want Ukraine to receive as much support as possible, because it’s radically weakening a violent hostile country that has already proven it is hell bent on stealing territory.

          Proving to the world that Russia is not a threat militarily and removing any further capacity for violent Russian hostility for decades has been a great investment.

          Try again