Bit of a simple question: Some people on lemmy are still posting stuff from youtube, xitter and the like.

Have you gone full fediverse yet or how far are you?

  1. traded reddit for lemmy/kbin
  2. xitter for mastodon
  3. discord for matrix
  4. youtube for peertube

Obviously I also mean other alternatives. Which ones do you use and why?

Disclaimer: this question is me asking genuinely but also trying to make it fun by arbitrary ranking/escalating it. Not trying to say one is better than the others.

  • spiderplant@lemm.ee
    3·
    11 months ago

    Instead of going fedi I’m going minimal.

    Reddit -> Lemmy, with the caveat that time spent on here is minimal, to be reviewed at a later date.

    xitter -> nothing, nitter.net if I want to read a xeet linked by another resource. Ultimately for me micro blogging social media is a time suck with little return.

    discord -> still on it for a few different reasons, not sure if I’ll set up matrix just to do a bridge, privacy and minimalism are clashing here.

    YouTube -> nothing, invidious if I want to watch yt content. Short or low quality video content is another time suck, try and keep video streaming to a minimum for environmental and mental health reasons.

    Netflix and others -> the high seas (it is decentralised)

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
      1·
      11 months ago

      The high seas definitely are a legit strategy in my book.

      The discord bridge of matrix is insanely good and I dont see a problem with using discord or just bridging to it. In opposition i think bridging is a lot safer since you‘re not running the site in your browser but in a containerized app which otherwise has no cookies etc.

      • spiderplant@lemm.ee
        2·
        11 months ago

        Already using libre wolf with containers so not sure how much of a benefit I’d get from moving to an app.

        Again back to minimalism I’d rather move away from it completely than have to have a another service to continue using discord. Could change if I start using matrix.

        • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
          2·
          11 months ago

          You do you. I‘m speaking from the pov that you need at least one way of communicating with friends and peers. Thats what I use matrix for. Lemmy is a forum for me and thats basically it.

          • spiderplant@lemm.ee
            1·
            11 months ago

            I’ve got too many atm, fb messenger, insta, discord, signal, SMS.

            Signal is what I’m trying to push, not sure if it counts as decentralised 🤷

            Looking to consolidate rather than tack on another that I don’t think anyone I know uses.

            • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
              3·
              11 months ago

              Tbf signal is pretty good. Since I‘ve had someone else mention signal in this thread before I‘ve just spent an hour reading. Here‘s what I‘ve found:

              the signal protocol and app

              The signal protocol is rather secure and anonymous, trying to achieve zero knowledge situations with the server owners. Your contact list can apparently be reconstructed by following the messages, not sure how that works. Just found this in a reddit thread

              xmpp (omemo)

              The protocol used by whatsapp. Is also very secure, some vulnerabilities have been noted and some concerns with the ability to break the encryption. Not sure how that would work either but I‘ve read that a couple times now.

              the matrix protocol

              Matrix is notably more focused on stability and has more decentralization capabilities (apparently easier horizontal scaling since your chats are saved on ever server your chat members are on) therefore less failure likelihood.

              summary

              All the protocols are vulnerable to some attacks and none has a significant advantage. The xmpp foundation has apparently been influenced by google at some point and the matrix foundation has thinly veiled corporate ties which may or may not become a problem. All in all, it’s probably not important which messenger you promote, I have to say the interoperability of matrix through web api bridges has been noted by multiple sources.

              Have a good one. :)