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And honestly the example you gave is rather a good example of a remake. The PS2 is 20 years old at this point. If the game was well made and the remake/ remaster is well-executed? Why would anyone object to this?
New and exciting games exist. This isn’t an issue. In most cases I’d even say that while money surely is important, in most cases it’s not a lack of money preventing a good game, but rather another issue that might lead to funds running out. If that makes sense.
The current situation is way better than say 25-30 years ago, and those games weren’t exactly trash.
Would be a good one, yes. But currently the trend is getting closer from 1.5 to 1 generation ago
Worst offenders to me are cod, despite a bigger time gap. Force bundling a remake into another live service game that STILL GETS SHUT DOWN AFTER A FEW YEARS FOR THE NEXT LIVE SERVICE.
Yes. Especially when it’s only like 2 or 3 years after first release. It’s just double dipping at that point.
@Thalestr @chloyster on the SAME SYSTEM. Crazy
no, the original is only a PS4 game
@beefcat I assure you it runs on the ps5 and was released on the ps5 because it was THREE YEARS AGO
that is the PS4 version running under backwards compatibility. the game released months before the PS5 launched.
you wouldn’t call f-zero gx a wii game just because the wii is backwards compatible with gamecube games.
Yes. It’s like “let’s not pursue new ideas, it’s too risky. Let’s repeat what worked once” - like in the movie industry as well. It’s boring and uninspired.
This is why I’m not happy with there being so many remakes. Remakes are awesome, if it also means we are getting a totally new game as well. Nintendo seems to do this the best. New Mario’s, remakes of Zelda games, new Zelda games, etc.
I do wish they would make a sequel to Mario RPG or make an actual Paper Mario RPG like the first two were.
Same for the music industry, just pick some random 90s hit and make it 10 times worse.
Yeah, I definitely agree that it’s kind of a systemic problem, and pretty much how things are right now. I don’t really care for that mindset of focusing so much on older games and not prioritizing new ideas or IPs. At the same time, I’m honestly a total sucker for nostalgia, I grew up playing games from like late 90s to mid 2000s, and I would be so stoked if they remade or remastered all those games I grew up on. I would throw money at whoever remastered the Need For Speed games from '98 to '06, as good as those games were for the time, they could look so amazing with modern technology. I wanna relive my teenage years but in 4k :D
Remakes: Yes Remasters: No
I don’t like when they remake a game I loved but they add a bunch to it like new gameplay mechanics, or make changes to stories or characters. That being said not all remakes are bad, probably most are just fine, but really not my cup of tea.
I greatly prefer a straight remaster. Just update the graphics, remaster the sound, maybe add a little more details to the game world, and I’m a happy dude.
And fix annoying game behaviors like game logic being tied to FPS and zoom being tied to resolution.
what about Mafia Definitive Edition? I’d say that is probably the one good example of a remake.
For older games that are difficult to install or run by modern means., I think remakes and remasters are completely justified. Upgrades for older games to support newer technologies is nice, but something like TLoU Part 1 getting two remasters on a platform that has no issue running the first remaster already seems more exploitative and a waste of resources than conservational. If it sells like hotcakes, though, who am I to judge?
Nah, there’s just not enough of actual old titles that could do with a remake or remaster.
half of all remakes are worse than their originals. all we need are modern ports of older games so i don’t have to emulate
TLoU2 didn’t need remastering. At least not this soon!
It seems more like a PS5 Upgrade which it never got before. AFAIK you can even upgrade for $10 if you have the original.
The original got a PS5 update to 60 FPS. I think what we’re actually seeing is the remaster that will hit the PC. Same routine as the first game which saw a remaster for the PS5, then the PC and eventually the TV series. No doubt this will fall in line for season 2.
I believe the original is just PS5 enhanced, similar to running it on a PS4 Pro. But it’s still a PS4 game running on the PS5.
I don’t know the ins and outs. But most games like that have an upgrade that makes them into actual PS5 games (like you can only play it through the SSD for example).
Until I get my Legend Of Dragoon remake, there aren’t too many, no. After that ya’ll can do what you want
Taps foot for MegaMan legends 1 & 2.
I so want remakes of these two games.
Those need some serious rework. They manage to look beautiful even today with clever stylization, but the gameplay is ROUGH.
Yes but I’ll still take a Tiberian Sun and Red Alert 2 remake.
I hope remasters continue for games that are from the era where they relied on specific OS library hacks to get the game running. Those games are hard to run on modern OSs.
Had high hopes after the smashing success of red alert and command and conquer remastered :(
Same. I will be depressed until I get the Tiberian Sun announcement.
I don’t like remasters, especially those which are usually just re-release with hi-res textures. They are charging like $30 and above for hi-res texture, and some of them has unstable framerates. At certain point of time, using emulator yields better graphics & performance than some of those remasters, especially for PS1/PS2 games.
On the other hand, I actually like remakes way more.
First of all FF7R
shouldn’t be considered as remake, it should be considered as its own spinoff / sequel
Remake not only exploits that nostalgia, but also tend to make game plays better with added QoL functions, sometimes with new gameplay mechanics. Some of the remakes that I really like:
- Yakuza 1+2 Kiwami
- Crisis Core
- Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater
- Resident Evil 1+2 (have not played 3+4 remakes yet)
- Live a Live
- Mass Effect Trilogy (thankfully it’s not just a hi-res port)
Remake is great when there’s a significant technology and time gaps between the games, which is why TLOU remakes drew some ires.
First of all FF7R shouldn’t be considered as remake, it should be considered as its own spinoff / sequel
Fucking finally someone gets it!
I’d argue that video games need remakes and remasters far more than movies do. Video game technologies change a lot in 10-15 years, so a remake/remaster is an opportunity to improve controls and fix issues with running the game on hardware that hadn’t been concieved at the time of the game’s release. Plenty of old games have severe bugs, outdated controls or general issues with newer hardware (can’t handle widescreen monitors, buttons don’t scale for high resolutions, etc.) which can make replaying them a pain.
You sit down to watch a 25 year old movie and it’s pretty easy to watch, but you sit down to play a 25 year old game and it’s going to vary wildly if you can even get it to run in the first place, let alone if it’ll run well
Yes. One hundred percent yes without exception- YES.
@chloyster we can’t get a remake of KOTOR but somehow we are getting this piece of crap on THE EXACT SAME SYSTEM it was released on.
The last one was PS4 though. I agree it’s unnecessary, but it’s not the exact same system.
I’m reminded of AlphaDream, which died as a company shortly after releasing a remake of a game where the original was still playable on the same console.
