• aesthelete@lemmy.world
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    The vast majority of people which means the one that decide what politics win. Remember in a democracy the one with the most votes wins. All the extreme viewpoints that you point to are a minority of a minority.

    We aren’t in a democracy.

    Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016.

    The “minority of a minority” that you speak of that hold these viewpoints are the Republican candidates for POTUS in 2024. All except maybe Chris Christie are still holding the torch for Trump.

    Once you’re under the boot of fascism, it won’t matter that the majority of people started out disagreeing with the fascists. They divide and conquer and rule using terror and violence. The numbers are meaningless if the numbers take no action against the threat. They’ll become spectators to mass violence or victims thereof.

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        1 year ago

        Is Trump an extremist as you claimed just a post ago, or is it that it’s a new extremist view of mine that attempting to overturn an election is fascist behavior?

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          First of all I didn’t mention what he was at all. But the truth of the matter is that he’s just a corrupt idiot. He bumbled his way into being a cult leader. He’s not exactly making proactive decisions about what the cult does.

          Aside from that the actual Q cultists are few and far between. They may be loud but they’re small. The mainstream appeal of Trump was because everybody is tired of constant politics. Some people may like it but most people couldn’t give two shits.

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            You cherry pick the most extreme examples and then call everybody a Nazi. I wasn’t talking about Putin. I wasn’t talking about Trump.

            “Extreme examples” included Trump in your previous post.

            He bumbled his way into being a cult leader. He’s not exactly making proactive decisions about what the cult does.

            That’s the heart of the matter. He’s a cult leader. Fascism is many things but central to fascist movements is a charismatic leader who alters the government around their cult of personality.

            I thoroughly disagree that he doesn’t make proactive decisions about what the cult does (whose idea was 1/6/21?).

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              Central to any movement anywhere is a charismatic leader. Not every political system is fucking fascism.

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                Yeah that’s right, take a single adjective-noun pairing out of a sentence and pretend like that was the only thing in the sentence that mattered.

                If this thread is any indication, you’re not equipped to persuade anyone of anything much less persuading bigots to stop being bigots.

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                  I’m just tired of people online calling everything fascism. You’ve taken a term that means something and made it mean nothing. Your definition of fascist is worthless. Stop using the word.

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                    Your definition of fascist is worthless. Stop using the word.

                    Lol

                    “It’s not right to prevent people from saying whatever they want”

                    Moments later

                    “Stop using the word”

                    Shouldn’t you be trying to win out in “the free marketplace of ideas” through persuasion instead of demanding people stop using words in ways you don’t like? Or does that only apply to non-Nazis?