• T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Re read what I wrote please. Also don’t straw man, show your homework. C’mon do better.

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      1 day ago

      what about those that kill themselves after transitioning because they regret it?

      You’re never going to answer this because you know it defeats your argument.

      I’ll just take this as your surrender and we can move on with our lives.

      You may have the last word, I can tell you’re desperate for it.

      • Ziglin (they/them)@lemmy.world
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        15 hours ago

        They (probably) exist but are fewer than those that that kill themselves because they can’t transition. Also the regret rates at least for gender affirming surgeries (I don’t think I can generalize any further without weird exceptions and further research) are significantly lower than all other surgeries.

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          3 hours ago

          So, the people who kill themselves because they regret transitioning don’t matter because they’re a minority?

          Same rhetoric republicans would use to justify hate for any marginalized people.

          • Ziglin (they/them)@lemmy.world
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            11 hours ago

            No I didn’t say that. I said that more people benefit from having the choice of recieving trans healthcare than regret, let alone decide to kill themselves because of it.

            The way I understand your argument is that because a few people have negative effects from choosing to do something that has a positive effect on a lot of others the ability to prepare for it should be restricted to people until later in life when some important benefits are lost.

            The only gender affirming healthcare given to people under the age of 18 years is puberty blockers which only delay the effects of puberty and cause negligible long term effects (this is an assumption, I have not heard of any long term effects of puberty blockers but I assume there are some). Why would people who regret transitioning be a reason to stop that?

            My previous comment was explaining why the option of medical transitions for adults should be available. It benefits those who need it. One can’t help those who transition medically and regret it far beyond attempting to reverse it. We can however try to avoid those situations by giving better them better education about transitioning.

            Just because surgeries/games can go wrong doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed as a way to help people or make them happier.