• anlumo@feddit.de
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    No, the reason it’s not going to break him is that Twitter took on the loan, not himself.

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      Hold on…. You’re saying I can take out a loan for $x amount of dollars against a company I don’t own yet and buy it with that money?

      if I take out a mortgage for a property before I buy it and I destroy the house; the bank still comes after me for the value.

      Am I being stupid or is the game more rigged than I thought?

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        Hold on…. You’re saying I can take out a loan for $x amount of dollars against a company I don’t own yet and buy it with that money?

        Yes

        I take out a mortgage for a property before I buy it and I destroy the house; the bank still comes after me for the value.

        Not the same, a house can’t be a legal person, the owner is the legal person of the house. The money Musk borrowed in twitter is owed by twitter, not by Musk. To do the same with a house, you need to do it through a company.

        That is possible because companies can have limited financial responsibility, meaning the money they owe are not owed by their owners.

        It’s a pretty nifty arrangement, to help the rich stay rich no matter what happens.

        Am I being stupid or is the game more rigged than I thought?

        We are stupid for not being rich enough, and still allowing the rich unfair advantages.

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        if I take out a mortgage for a property before I buy it and I destroy the house; the bank still comes after me for the value.

        There’s a type of insurance for everything.

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        if I take out a mortgage for a property before I buy it and I destroy the house; the bank still comes after me for the value.

        Only if it was destroyed intentionally.

        Of course, it could be argued that Musk is destroying Twitter intentionally, but that’s for a court to decide.

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        That’s what bankruptcy is for. Twitter files bankruptcy, and they can officially tell the banks to stuff it.

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      Not quite. The the $33 Billion of equity Elon Musk put up junior to the $13 Billion loan.

      That means that if the company starts at $44 Billion then falls to $15 Billion, then Twitter still owes $13 Billion, but Elon Musk only has $2 Billion now.

      Leveraged buyouts are… well… levered. It grossly increases the risk of losing everything.