Early on in my current campaign my players were sent on a quest by a wizard friend of theirs, he gave them a sending stone so he could keep in contact with them. After that quest ended my players got a nice big downtime, 1 month. One of my players, who owns a tavern, asked to dedicate that downtime to finding some more sending stones, one for each player and the pairs to be held by the barkeep NPC she employs. I rolled on the tables in XGtE and got a price that they could afford.

Are there any unforeseen downsides in letting them spend all their money on sending stones? I know this effectively gives them party wide telekinesis but since they’re using this NPC as a telephone switchboard (literally how they pitched the idea) I can reserve the right to say he’s busy and can’t forward their messages.

I decided to give them the stones and then ran a session, they got separated for a few minutes and spent most of it talking through that npc to each other instead of trying to solve the problem that separated them. They’ve implemented a rule that he needs to write down what they say and relay the message exactly. 10/10 it was quite funny. Try doing this with your players.

  • peto (he/him)@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    The switchboard model is going to make it a lot worse than telepathy. Consider the action flow:

    • Alice wants to send a message to Bob.
    • Alice uses her action to send her message to Switch (who, let’s assume is paid to give this job his sole attention.)
    • Switch must then spend their action to send to Bob. Bob can freely reply.
    • Switch must then spend another action to relay the reply back to Alice.

    Switch at any point may need a message repeated costing another action for the sender, and is more likely to need a repeat when messages are sent in stressful situations.

    If Switch has other duties, the party might need to arrange ahead of time that they are going to need the service. The service also lacks efficient broadcast capabilities. Each stone needs to be activated sequentially, and Switch can reasonably only be expected to understand one person talking at once.

    I think it sits closer to telegraph than a moble phone. Depending on the kind of campaign it might represent a vulnerability that can be exploited.

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      2 months ago

      Perfect. Let the players run with it. The more impractical and overcomplicated it is the more opportunities for the DM to set up unintended consequences.

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    2 months ago

    I say, let them run with their idea. Sounds fun and already full of complications 🤣

    For instance, you could give them a few go-rounds with this switchboard mechanism to underline its flaws, and perhaps have them encounter a theoretical mage fixated on pushing the boundaries of traditional spellcasting who says s/he might be able to create a bridge between sending stones and replace this human switchboard.

    Of course, that quietly lays a foundation for all sorts of DM shenanigans:

    1.) The mage is secretly nefarious and listening in on their conversations, or

    2.) The bridge is somehow causing glitches in nearby messaging magic of all kinds, leading to a local investigation of this arcane static, or

    3.) The mage’s enchanting of the bridge went awry in some miniscule way. Completely undetected, the continued use of the jerry-rigged Weave is exacerbating the issue leading to increasingly negative effects — eg.

    3.a.) Users begin hearing their distant companions as if they’re right next to them, and it grows to include sleeping hours eventually preventing them from getting rest [Exhaustion is a bitch ] until they leave their stone a certain distance away.

    3.b.) Something indescribable lurks in “the spaces between” that these bridged messages travel through from stone to stone, and it begins to take notice of the sudden noise/static in its surreal domain/hunting ground/oubliette/etc. — perhaps even feeding on the stones’ bearers, or moving to cross over into t the e PCs’ world via this irresponsible breach of ancient arcane protocol…

    4.) Or, all of the above 🤣😱☠️

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      The NPC decides to expand the sending stone services without the players’ knowledge. They outsource the switching tasks, and then the production and distribution of sending stones, eventually turning it into a full-blown telecommunications service and call center. The players call in and have to wait in a hold queue for assistance. The outsourced staff don’t know the player characters and don’t really understand or care about the service beyond the specific task they were hired for, so it starts to degrade and provide a worse user experience. A local bad guy hacks into the system and starts eavesdropping on calls. The original NPC sells the business off before it completely collapses, and skips town. Communications failures and chaos ensue.

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    2 months ago

    let them buy it from a local vendor who’s actually the BBEG.

    then have them roll for perception every time the stones are used, crossing their wires and sending them on wild goose chases until the stones are unfucked by some magical authority or the players stop using them because they realize they’re compromised.

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    2 months ago

    You know, an inexperienced switchboard operator could easily make the wrong connection, especially in a stressful moment…

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    2 months ago

    Next thing you know, judging from comments here, the players will give up on magic and ask for some copper cables going all the way back to their base

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    2 months ago

    Sounds like fun! I would reward the engagement with the stones they want. There’s room for all sorts of ways for it to work really well or really poorly. If they’re consistently using it to circumvent your story beats, maybe some interesting complications or particular defenses might be in order.

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    2 months ago

    The most obvious thing to do is have the NPC be replaced with a doppleganger minion of your next big bad so that the sending stones end up passing along disinfo (splitting the party, giving wrong directions, getting them to discard a magic item under the false belief it is cursed, etc)

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      2 months ago

      This would be good if they received a surprise gift of stones, but is pretty awful for the players who took the time to find the stones intentionally.

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        2 months ago

        You’re not wrong, however, they can have their toys back after they figure out what happened and rescue the NPC. It’s a good hook and requires them to think about spending some of their treasure to shore up their home defenses. For all we know, their players are murder hobos and this is well deserved comeuppance.

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          My players aren’t murder hobos, but the tavern is in a bad part of town and suddenly has a bunch of magic items

  • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Man, I wish I could play these games with people. All of these comments sound fun as hell.