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Since you are likely going to need to create bootable media for any OS install anyway, just use Rufus for Windows 11. Check a few boxes and you don’t have to deal with anything you don’t want. Well, other than Windows that is.

Looks like a piece of art to me. I’d make your argument in reverse about how ugly the 5 is, but different strokes for different folks. I catch more people checking it out and then come talk to me about it when I walk up to my Ioniq 6 than I ever did driving a Corvette. Public opinion seems that it’s nice, just too expensive for them. And for those that do want to invest in it, the 5 is more useful to most with the hatchback.

I see. That person refuted the claim that the CT was outselling the Ioniq 6 as I claimed. But from every source I see, CT sold about 70K and Ioniq 6 about half that, hence my original post claiming such. He may be confused and was pulling annual US sales numbers about the Ioniq 5, which sells about 30-35K models per year. But as per my original post and the article, this is about car sales in the US only and defines US market flops in terms of sales numbers, with no other metric considered. The Ioniq 6 was outsold by the CT and had more time on the market, which makes it arguably worse.

So unless you have a lot of very specific knowledge, that’s going to be beyond the layman to do. This article didn’t cover any of those costs in its comparison beteeen the Edsel and the CT. They compared sales numbers. Anything else would be cool to know, but aren’t really important in terms of what was compared here.

And? The CT sold more than that in 2024 alone. I am confused as to what point you are trying to make here.

Are you confusing Ioniq 5 with the 6? I doubt Hyundai sold 37,000 Ioniq 6s in the US throughout its entire production run, but Tesla sold 38,965 CTs in 2024 alone, and a little over 20K in 2025. I have seen this number on other sites as well. Hyundai reported percentage decline for the Ioniq 6, but I saw sliding numbers from 2023 to 2024 where they sold about 9000 cars per year down to only about 1200 in total for 2026 before they pulled out. The Ioniq 5 sells over 30K cars per year.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-sales-elon-musk/

https://evseekers.com/hyundai-ev-sales-by-year/

For sure I think that matters. Total investment cost in developing it and manufacturing facilities as well too. At least the Ioniq 6 sells well elsewhere. It’s more of a US flop, but I doubt they are thinking beyond their borders when it comes to worst automotive flop ever.

While that may be true, I can’t imagine any American article considering a perspective outside of the US. CT is available in Canada as well, and at least anecdotally, I see them just a little less often than Ioniq 6s. I bought a 6 a couple years ago and love it. Interestingly, I did not find the 5 as appealing, though it too had good bona fides as an EV.

Can’t be the worst flop. The Cybertruck outsold the Ioniq 6 by roughly a 2:1 margin in the US. Both were introduced around the same time, and it sounds like Hyundai already pulled the 6 from the US market. But while the Cybertruck was a certified piece of crap, the Ioniq 6 was consistently rated at the top of available EV on the market. I guess sedans are pretty much DOA as a body style these days though.

I see the same on my commute, but it isn’t random. The same lanes consistently move faster between the same stretches every day. If you know how and when to merge, you can shave a significant amount of time off your drive.

Same, but I’m the one going to bed at 5am lol

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Do you just have the nicest oil and gas companies in the world who wouldn’t dream of profiteering in the name of curbing demand during a global shortage, or are you already jacked up to the point that an increase would cause a revolt?

Higher gas prices should promote more conservative driving habits as well, but they don’t. People don’t drive the speed limits now, they won’t slow down to save money, and they make automated enforcement a political liability, ensuring anyone who tries to rein them in gets the boot. Will sure be interesting if they completely run out, but just like the band continued to play while the Titanic went down, it’s going to be business as usual here until reality slaps us in the face.

I think the logic is that ridiculous gas prices will encourage people to reduce consumption on their own. But the reality is nobody really has a choice but to use at the same rate and simply pay, so the boosted fuel cost doesn’t curb demand and is no different than the toilet paper profiteering during the pandemic. Either way, it’s looking to be about time for the US to cut Iran a sweetheart deal to fix their colossal fuck up.

When the profits will be negative, I assure you he is talking about you.

Things got rough for Homer after Marge died.

Well, username checks out.

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